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Halflife 2 at E3 expo
« on: May 13, 2004, 03:03:46 PM »
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Gamespy has an article about the Halflife2 demostration on the E3 expo:
As a demonstration, we were shown a new version of the Counter-Strike "Aztec" map running in the new Source engine. While the texture and models clearly weren't as impressive as in the Half-Life 2 demos, the graphics were miles beyond the current versions, with players causing realistic splashes as they ran through the water. When the shooting started, bullets riddled the river, sending water everywhere. The physics of the Source engine should also add a new dimension to Counter-Strike's gameplay, with simple touches like barrels getting blown up and rolling in every direction when caught in a grenade's explosion. According to Johnson, porting mods to the new engine isn't automatic by any means, but isn't a very complicated procedure, either, and Valve is clearly hoping that a lot of Half-Life mod authors will be compelled to continue their work in the new engine.
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In other words Valve will have CS2 ready when they release HL2 and will be amazing
you can read the article here
http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/half-life-2/514669p1.html
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Re:Halflife 2 at E3 expo
« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2004, 03:26:55 PM »
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Valve will probably want to milk HL2 for awhile before they throw CS2 out. I know I would buy CS2 first and maybe never get to HL2 if they were released at the same time.
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Re:Halflife 2 at E3 expo
« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2004, 04:05:02 PM »
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since steam will be there to deliver the game content, they can load the engine and have you buy whatever games that use the engine that you want..
i just hope they add LOTS of bandwidth before they release either, because otherwise i can see lots of connection problems while everyone is DLing the content.
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Re:Halflife 2 at E3 expo
« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2004, 04:05:08 PM »
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Valves promises lack credibility, however, it would be in their best interest to make this transition as smooth as possible otherwise they stand to lose many customers.
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« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2004, 05:48:25 PM »
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I just saw all the footage using my ign insider account from hl2 wow just wow. Amazing and then when they put cs2 a bunch of guys in the show room were like "oh s***" it was unbelievable. Aztec looked amazing!
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« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2004, 06:06:38 PM »
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Just saw it from ign insider account. Thanks thumb.
Cs is going to change... And as for aztec... it looked good 
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« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2004, 06:15:55 PM »
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I don't know about hl2/cs2. I like cs. And i don't like all the changes that are happening. Like 1.6 i did not like, along with this new awp change i've heard about and will test tomorrow. My theory is that cs players don't like things to change all that much, the 1.6 change and jumping change in 1.4 people just haven't liked a big change.. And if cs2's gameplay changes to much it won't be good. I don't really know all the changes that they are going to make. But i hope they dont' ruin the game.
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« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2004, 06:35:08 PM »
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But i hope they dont' ruin the game.
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Just treat cs2 like a new game...
There is no point in comparing cs2 to cs because chances are there will be several differences. Your never going to enjoy it until you accept that it will change.
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« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2004, 06:57:01 PM »
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the thing is it's not a new game. It's jsut gona be like cs 1.7, instead it will be 2.0 thats the problem it's not a different game it's the same. I mean changing graphics is one thing. But if they change like damage and stuff like that. Or lots of dif guns, idk. I'm not gona knock it till i try it, but i don't plan on buying it till cs is not played anymore or csr upgrades 2 cs2
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« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2004, 07:11:50 PM »
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The new Aztec level looked fantastic - and just so you know, in the build they showed the Terrorists were using AK47's (lovely new models), and the CT's I dont know (too far away) - but one had a very very nice looking AWP. New bomb looks the bizz too 
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« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2004, 08:05:27 PM »
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I agree with biggums. Ive havent been playing cs as long as some people have and i tend to hate these new changes.
When CS2 comes out its going to be new and interesting. But i am going to stick with the old cs as long as possible
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« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2004, 08:55:45 PM »
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Kinda how like during the 1.5-.6 switch, there were still a lot A LOT of people who stuck with 1.5...till won was shut down 
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Re:Halflife 2 at E3 expo
« Reply #13 on: May 13, 2004, 09:21:47 PM »
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What is won?
I don't like the changes they do with cs now where they just toy with something and its different all the time. But seeing as though this is a new engine and all its hard not to warrant the change.
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« Reply #14 on: May 13, 2004, 09:38:47 PM »
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WON as in won-id database. 2417264. My wonid. The reason you buy cs or hl so u can get a cd key to get a won id so u can play on a server WON.
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« Reply #15 on: May 14, 2004, 07:06:04 AM »
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WON isn't shut down yet.
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« Reply #16 on: May 14, 2004, 07:40:40 AM »
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Yeah. WON isn't shut down at all. Load up 1.5 and there are still like 10 thousand servers running. The best are those servers with the 1.3 jumping mod installed.
http://www.redphive.org/?view=redphive_file_display
for 1.3, 1.4, 1.5, and halflife files.
And just to clarify, Valve isn't calling CS run on the Source engine "CS2". Multi-player for Half-Life2 *IS* CS updated to run on Source, no serious game changes made. I imagine CS2 *will* have gamplay changes, but they haven't announced anything at all. My bet is that it's coming along just as well as TF2.
Never-the-less, CS on Source looks absolutely amazing.
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Re:Halflife 2 at E3 expo
« Reply #17 on: May 14, 2004, 08:18:49 AM »
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I saw the video and thought it was awesome...much more "action movie" looking, with great gouts of water and richochets flying when you fire...and Aztec looked sick, truely sick.
Me, I like the changes that have happened to CS. I hate hoppers; even if CS is not marketed as a "simulation shooter", I still feel weird about jumping around corners through the air and getting all John Woo. Sniper rifles too, I've been praying they would fix the "instant scope and fire"syndrome. Personally, I have nothing against AWP, it's just that it's more like a railgun than a RL sniper rifle, with all the weaknesses thereof. Anyway, once I saw CS I dumped Quake2 CTF like it was a fat girlfriend because CS at least made pretensions to realism.
Terraj, did you PLAY HL? To this day it was one of the most cinematic games ever developed, truely involving, with a GOOD backstory (how often do you see that?), with tons of memorable scenes...the tenticle in the pit, the room filling with acid, fighting the giant bollocks, the first time you get the energy weapon, the rapid footsteps of charging assassains...HL is one of the top 10 games of all time, IMHO.
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« Reply #18 on: May 14, 2004, 08:21:25 AM »
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| Terraj, did you PLAY HL? To this day it was one of the most cinematic games ever developed, truely involving, with a GOOD backstory (how often do you see that?), with tons of memorable scenes...the tenticle in the pit, the room filling with acid, fighting the giant bollocks, the first time you get the energy weapon, the rapid footsteps of charging assassains... |
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I seriously remember each and every one of those moments....for the exact reasons Ribs said-- this game just does an excellent job telling its story. Not many games can compare to it.
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« Reply #19 on: May 14, 2004, 08:28:02 AM »
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CS2 is not CS1.7 because when CS2 comes out, CS 1.6 will still be there right along side it. They aren't forcing it upon you and you don't have to buy it at all if you don't want to. As for change, its pretty sad that you guys would just want the same thing forever.... valve wrote an entirely new engine to run this game and it is going to be one of the most insane looking games to date. The interaction level they have added with the maps will be a great addition to the game play, not just a bunch of sqaure objects that you run on, around, through, and over... you can actually interact with elements in the map
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« Reply #20 on: May 14, 2004, 09:00:01 AM »
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CS is successful for a reason. When you chip away at the skill separation in the game it angers many people to leaving the game. CS is liked for the game play, not the graphics. With every update a noob gets their wings. If they mess with the gameplay they mess with the reason people play the game.
I'm not suprised when the vast majority of the pub-i crowd (I'm pub-i) wants to see these changes made. As long as they don't mess with the core of the game, they should be OK. Doom will put up a massive challenge and many will leave for that.
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« Reply #21 on: May 14, 2004, 09:06:05 AM »
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« Reply #22 on: May 14, 2004, 09:07:49 AM »
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GOOD.. they people that leave are the annoying ones i don't want to play with anyway cause they cry about them making the game more realistic by not letting you awp the crap out of people doing a quick switch to zoom faster
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« Reply #23 on: May 14, 2004, 09:16:17 AM »
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Railgun > Awp.
It's been a while since I have played Quake3, I used to be pretty good at the game. No one ever wants to play against me though 
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« Reply #24 on: May 14, 2004, 11:05:20 AM »
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Terraj, did you PLAY HL? To this day it was one of the most cinematic games ever developed, truely involving, with a GOOD backstory (how often do you see that?), with tons of memorable scenes...the tenticle in the pit, the room filling with acid, fighting the giant bollocks, the first time you get the energy weapon, the rapid footsteps of charging assassains...HL is one of the top 10 games of all time, IMHO.
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Oh of course I did. It's defenetly high on my list. My only point was that one person can only swallow one full priced game at a time and the truth of the matter is that I have gotten way more milage out of CS than HL. After downloading that movie on that link it makes me drool something fierce.
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« Reply #25 on: May 14, 2004, 11:05:46 AM »
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I can•t wait, this is the kind of graphics and visuals I see when playing Vietcong! I miss the running river and bullet sprays when hitting water. Vietcong also has movement visually when running, your gun joggles and you must pull gun up to aim with no crosshair but the actual sight of the gun your carrying. The only reason I play CS is because of the forum style and the amount of servers and you guys of course.
I know hard habits are hard to break but trust me it is all a lot more realistic, I wish you had to bring the gun up to aim in our game! We have the ridiculous instant head shots because you can aim while running, not in Vietcong you can always be aiming but you can only walk when doing this!
Come on its great news it's like hearing your partner is going for some larger (*)(*)'s! UPGRADE!
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« Reply #26 on: May 14, 2004, 12:48:37 PM »
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Man i thought they shut won down like in december or something. My bad.
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« Reply #27 on: May 14, 2004, 12:50:53 PM »
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Railgun > Awp.
It's been a while since I have played Quake3, I used to be pretty good at the game. No one ever wants to play against me though
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« Reply #28 on: May 14, 2004, 12:56:02 PM »
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1) i played Half Life and i hated it. Most boring game ever. Almost as boring as Halo single player.
2) screw HL2...E3 has Mortal Kombat: Deception!! WOOT!!
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« Reply #29 on: May 14, 2004, 01:11:35 PM »
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I'm guessing you didn't make it through the rift opening experiment?
HL was a classic and I doubt anyone who played it all the way throught could come up with some serious knocks on it.
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« Reply #30 on: May 14, 2004, 01:14:43 PM »
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no..i did beat the entire game. saw both endings too.
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« Reply #31 on: May 14, 2004, 01:22:33 PM »
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So then what are your serious knocks on it then?
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« Reply #32 on: May 14, 2004, 02:14:32 PM »
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1) i played Half Life and i hated it. Most boring game ever. Almost as boring as Halo single player.
2) screw HL2...E3 has Mortal Kombat: Deception!! WOOT!!
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« Reply #33 on: May 14, 2004, 02:19:34 PM »
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So then what are your serious knocks on it then?
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1) im a console player, not a computer player
2) repetitive
3) story ending not worth the playing
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« Reply #34 on: May 14, 2004, 03:01:59 PM »
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deuce.. i will say this only once...
you have NO RIGHT WHATSOEVER to complain about a game being repetitive if you are a CS player, i mean does it get more repetetive than CS??? hell no...
endings of games often overshadow the game itself.. I don't play a game to see its ending, I play a game to play the game. HL was probably the only FPS I went through without cheating, just because I enjoyed it so much
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« Reply #35 on: May 14, 2004, 03:12:30 PM »
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deuce.. i will say this only once...
you have NO RIGHT WHATSOEVER to complain about a game being repetitive if you are a CS player, i mean does it get more repetetive than CS??? hell no...
endings of games often overshadow the game itself.. I don't play a game to see its ending, I play a game to play the game. HL was probably the only FPS I went through without cheating, just because I enjoyed it so much
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thats where you are wrong fotty..CS is not repetitive, as you face a new challenge each time..there is always someone new to face.
and i play games for their story, too be entertained (one reason why i love mortal kombat..the story is so in depth). the story to HL in my opinion was weak.
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« Reply #36 on: May 14, 2004, 03:15:12 PM »
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no CS is the same.. its a new challenge because you went bridge this round instead of double doors??? its the same thing every round.. doesnt matter what route you take
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« Reply #37 on: May 14, 2004, 04:23:55 PM »
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no, i meant the people you face. you are always going against different people with different strategies.
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« Reply #38 on: May 14, 2004, 06:22:13 PM »
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I passed hl2
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« Reply #39 on: May 19, 2004, 12:32:04 PM »
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i thought half life was one of the best games iv played on the pc - but i really liked doom and still do, so its not like i require much of a story!!!
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« Reply #40 on: May 20, 2004, 09:16:06 AM »
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If you liked doom, did you play the Serious Sam games? Very doomy, and lots of fun to play cooperatively...WHY DON'T MORE GAMES HAVE CO-OP MODE ANYMORE???
Painkiller too is another brainless shooter that looks absolutely beautiful and plays like doom.
Having one mindless shooter on the PC is fun for that 15 minutes before you go to bed mellow out time. Me, I just play a couple rounds of Condition Zero with all the bots put in jason mode, or I log on as DM to that NWN server I'm on and drop lots of monsters on people I don't like. 
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Re:Halflife 2 at E3 expo
« Reply #41 on: May 20, 2004, 10:14:32 AM »
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for anyone that can't find the file, I am going to rip the HL2 section out of the avi and upload just the CS portion of the video so you guys can get a look.. its worth seeing
the whole movie is like 120+ megs or something so I will shrink it down and upload it (not to here of course) and post a link
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