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AWP on Mice
« on: July 04, 2003, 10:32:19 AM »
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I've seen that people have finally figured out how to get the AWP on Mice.  I haven't actually seen myself, but I'm pretty sure that they put it somewhere that you have to WORK to get your hands on it, it isn't just laying around on the floor.  That means it's not the same situation as the FY maps where picking up an AWP is fine.

Now personally, I would rather not have the AWP being used on this map.  I'd like input from everyone if they consider the AWP on mice the same deal as the FY maps or if they should not be used...especially since it's causing so much confusion about OTHER times when people use AWPs and we slap them down.

In the meantime if I see someone using an AWP I'm going to treat it as a "normal" use of AWP...give a warning then slep them around a little.  Let's see if people can use some self-restraint, so we can keep this map on the server.
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« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2003, 10:43:44 AM »
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>_<  sorry

i was always under the impression that since its on the ground, its legal like iceworld and poolday (and for those who do not know how to do it, yes..you do have to work to do it..running across the map setting off invisible triggers while being fired at is hard).

not to mention a few other admins saying i can use it..

but now that this AWP has become an illegal AWP, you better believe i wont go for it again..i dont want ribs fury coming at me! 

ribs = right

my solution: replace mice with rats
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« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2003, 11:11:14 AM »
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Don't worry Deuce, you did nothing wrong yet! Wasnt your fault, we needed this discussion on the forum before we knew where we all stood.


I'm of the mindset that it doesnt matter what map you are on, that it shouldnt be used in any circumstance. And another point I would like to raise is that on mice if you get it, and survive, you can use it for most, or all, of the game if you get it every time you die. It just doesnt seem to be in the spirit of the rules, even though you have to work to get it...
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« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2003, 11:28:07 AM »
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whereas i was on the mindset that if its part of the map its allowed (iceworld)

lets just get rid of all of the awp maps! 

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not gonna happen huh? 
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« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2003, 12:17:39 PM »
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there all awp maps u noobs

cs=awp


live with its part of life

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« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2003, 12:47:12 PM »
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LET US BUY AWPS



or none at all, including those ****ing fy maps.
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« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2003, 06:09:11 PM »
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i think we should have awp weekends on friday saturday and sunday the awp is allowed but not any other day of the week i think that will make the server full on weekends and allow the people that dont like it times to play with out. after all it was designed in the game and i for one like to play the gamme the way it was intended, ie use of all weapons completeing objective and no death match crap/
just mt 2 cents i think it would also solve the "why cant we use awp crap"


what do you all thinkl
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« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2003, 06:52:49 PM »
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*chants*....AWP....AWP......AWP.....AWP




dont ya just love Democracy?

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« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2003, 07:01:23 PM »
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We have some good AWP'rs here, and i bet no one will guess who one of the best of them is.
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« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2003, 04:21:55 AM »
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Nick your post was funny.

Back to the discussion, I will awp any chance I get on a map with awp that csr has.  Mainly because I can't stand those maps (fy) and I know that lots of people that put those maps on don't want the awps that come with it.  They are like "stop awping u noob awper" and i'm all like i'll make you a deal mr. im making you a deal.  Then i'm like I won't ever awp on this server if you don't put this map on.  Maybe it turns a few people away from putting that map on. 

I don't think I'd do it on mice though.  Just cause it would be so unfair to the other team if you did get it.  On fy maps they can go pick it up just the same.   

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« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2003, 09:22:07 AM »
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Quote from: Hostage Humper on July 04, 2003, 06:09:11 PM
i think we should have awp weekends on friday saturday and sunday the awp is allowed but not any other day of the week i think that will make the server full on weekends and allow the people that dont like it times to play with out. after all it was designed in the game and i for one like to play the gamme the way it was intended, ie use of all weapons completeing objective and no death match crap/
just mt 2 cents i think it would also solve the "why cant we use awp crap"


what do you all thinkl


Personally, I think that would be confusing as all heck for us to essentially break our own rule once a week.

I've never understood why people don't keep a second server in their favorites list that allows the AWP. Our AWP policy is not likely to change here, but there are plenty of servers where it's available: why don't you just use each server for what it's respectively good for?
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« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2003, 07:55:43 PM »
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porter i have plenty of servers that i play at to use the awp, but csr is where i know most people, csr is where most of the people i know that play cs play so thats where i usually play.  And playin cs without the awp, is almost like palying cs with no ak or colt, it's a weapon it has it's advantages and disadvantages. 
As for me i usually can and do follow server rules, and occasionally i break rules to server(i am sure u all know)  And i know that everyone breaks some server rules(hey no ones perfect), but for the cs player who is serious, they shoudl know how to use the awp, it wins, and loses rounds and all the greats use the awp. like kaoz
it's pretty simple, if you wana be good at cs, u have to be good with the awp.

Disadv(for awper)
long time between shots,
harder to shoot.
stand still to be accurate
$$EXPEN$IVE$$
and if u know how to play cs, it's loud***

adv(for awper
one shot 1 kill.
hard to kill a awper long range (if u can't play cs)
if still very accurate
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« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2003, 12:10:40 AM »
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I personally like the awp and woulndt mind using it, but the fact that it is banned doesnt bother me.  I mean i would LOVE to use it on CSR, but if its banned, then i guess its banned.  I enjoy using the scout and autosnipey...now those are fun sniper reifles.

However, Kidshaft, 3 of ur disadvantages arent really disadvantages.  For 1, the time between awp shots is not slow for u can just do the ol switch-to-the-knife-after-the-shot trick which everyone knows about and u dont have to worry about it.  It is not THAT expensive.  An autosniper rifle is more expensive than an awp...granted the autosnipey is a great gun, but it should be less than the awp (i personally think that the 2 prices should be switched...would get more people using the autosnipers).  And the fact that it is loud is not a disadvantage.  There are only 4 guns outa all of them that are/could be silenced (usp, tmp, colt, scout(kinda)).  Other than these guns (along with the usp and colt unsilenced), you can hear one shot fired from the gun as clear as day...a shot fired from the awp is jsut as "hearable" as a shot from a glock.  So the volume of the shot doesnt really put it at a disadvatage. 

I do like teh awp however and i think it is a good gun...when appropiately and moderately used and not when the whole team that is dominating are awp whores.  I personally think that CSR's reputation and integrety would still be intact if we made a rule that only 1 or 2 people per team could awp.  I personally think this would be a good compromise, but i dont know about others.  See the problem also arises tho that even with 1 or 2 people with the awp, maps could still be "corrupted" and made miserable to play.  Take for example siege.  Give the terrorists awps and u can basically kiss the cts chace of winning goodbye.  The ct team would either have to be really good with a good stategy or the awper from the terrorists sucks.  Its a tough call to make.

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« Reply #13 on: July 08, 2003, 12:27:19 AM »
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ayo... your aware that the time it saves to do that switch is very minimal, for alot of people its a habit from 1.3, and for me, i use it also to be an insurance if i'm rushed, so i can take out close range people with the pistol :-)
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« Reply #14 on: July 08, 2003, 12:31:14 AM »
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you know after i wrote it that did cross my mind cause to switch and then go back to the awp and then aim again...it really doesnt save time.  I guess it is just a mental thing.  Ok so 2 of the disadvantes werent disadvantages.  But honestly, saying the awp is harder to shoot...i never really found this to be true either.

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« Reply #15 on: July 08, 2003, 12:32:18 AM »
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its harder to shoot in certain situations, like... numerous targets
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« Reply #16 on: July 08, 2003, 09:20:35 AM »
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ok FINE, i'll give u THAT situation too!!!!         

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« Reply #17 on: July 08, 2003, 01:10:10 PM »
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real snipers use scouts and aim for the head

fake snipers use awps and aim for any body part

since when can a bullet in real life kill instantly when you get hit in the foot? "ow, got shot in the toe, whoops i'm dead"
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« Reply #18 on: July 08, 2003, 01:32:44 PM »
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actually deuce, if u hit someone anywhere but their chest hitboxes or head, it won't kill them unless they already have low HP, even arm shots don't always kill (and coming from a .50 caliber sniper rifle, with no medic around, THEY WOULD)

another anti-awp argument out the door
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« Reply #19 on: July 08, 2003, 01:41:03 PM »
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Looks like someone is putting up the awps take no skill arguement.  Let's assume what you say is true.  Then scouts take absolutely no skill at all because you can shoot while moving, you move faster, it cycles faster, it is quiet, you can unzoom people with your eyes closed, and it costs less.  I guess its only disadvantage would be that it takes to shots to kill and at close range that may be hard.  If you pack a deagle then ur set with that.  Or you can just unzoom like mad. 
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« Reply #20 on: July 08, 2003, 06:09:52 PM »
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i am talking about awp is easy to shoot u just press mouse1, but i mean to actually kill someone and hit them, u pretty much have to be still u can't jump around like u can with colt or even the scout
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