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rich-hobo
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Sheild and Awp?
« on: September 17, 2003, 01:04:43 PM »
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I know at the moment you are allowing the awp because of some bug in admin mod.
I was wondering if you are going to ban the awp again, and if you do ban the awp, then i feel that you ABSOUTLEY must ban the shield with it.
The sheild is more unfair than the awp, 1st only ct's get it, 2nd if you know how to use it, pretty much u can't die.
If you allow the shield in 1.6, then i feel you MUST allow the awp?
just wana know whats gona happen, if u have decided or what?
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Re:Sheild and Awp?
« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2003, 01:07:53 PM »
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the general word right now is that both shield and awp will be banned once banning weapons is working again.
at least until valve..i dont know..gets the idea that shields are unfair and decide to fix them or something.
anyway..thats the general feeling right now in the forums
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Re:Sheild and Awp?
« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2003, 03:09:35 PM »
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I remember when i first read about Condition Zero valve said that they will include a molotov nade (perhaps to make things fair against CT shields)
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Re:Sheild and Awp?
« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2003, 03:24:49 PM »
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that does bring up a good fact neo..
maybe in theory..once every new item is out..there will be new weapons to counter act the shield. but as of right now, the shield by itself is too powerful
arent the t's getting a new melee weapon too?
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Re:Sheild and Awp?
« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2003, 05:01:07 PM »
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ok then i guess ill play till then but csr will be removed if the shield gets banned. this is rediculious .
whats next?
flash bang..............cause it blinds people
shotgun................. cause people jump when they shoot it
give it a rest why not play the game the way it was intended the sheild was put in to help balance the awp.
why dont you evolve with the game.
remember if you cant change with the times you will surely die.
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Re:Sheild and Awp?
« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2003, 05:05:27 PM »
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the idea is the unbalancing factor of both, not to mention the fact that the shield has so many stability issues that we can't keep the shield and fast switch enabled...have you ever noticed how often you use fast switch??
Be patient, and don't start getting ticked off at this yet, testing and lots of other things are still needed before any of these issues are final.
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Re:Sheild and Awp?
« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2003, 05:15:42 PM »
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ok then i guess ill play till then but csr will be removed if the shield gets banned. this is rediculious .
whats next?
flash bang..............cause it blinds people
shotgun................. cause people jump when they shoot it
give it a rest why not play the game the way it was intended the sheild was put in to help balance the awp.
why dont you evolve with the game.
remember if you cant change with the times you will surely die.
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Well I think that the shield and awp should be removed because it kills the game play.
And I don•t think just because they added it to the game we have to like it and adapt to it especially when it was put there by same one that came up whit something as ****ed up as steam
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Re:Sheild and Awp?
« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2003, 05:47:39 PM »
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the idea is the unbalancing factor of both, not to mention the fact that the shield has so many stability issues that we can't keep the shield and fast switch enabled...have you ever noticed how often you use fast switch??
Be patient, and don't start getting ticked off at this yet, testing and lots of other things are still needed before any of these issues are final.
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Well said tenshi i agree with you 100 percent and i also agree with that i hate the fact that the awp is back but im going too have too deal with it till things get fixed and i thank porter for puting a whole lot off time in doing this he should be getting a lot of credit for working his ass off (excuse the language  )
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« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2003, 06:12:05 PM »
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ya porter keep up the good work
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Re:Sheild and Awp?
« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2003, 06:14:21 PM »
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Humper, you haven't played as T against 6 CT with shield then. Played dust last night and they made a shield wall, there wasn't even a way for Ts to get into the tunnel, unless every single T had a grenade...but then you're changing the game into a dance. I thought they were going to make the item realistic but a weapon designed for fire surpression and kills at 800 yards can't penetrate a ballistic shield at point-blank range.
The AWP is going once Porter can make it go again. We've had over two years to get used to not having AWP here, just enjoy the temporary relaxing of some rules.
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« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2003, 06:35:03 PM »
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The shield was meant to balence out the awp. I don't believe so because everyone can buy awps. Awps are used for locking down areas rather then used for breaking sites. The cts are the ones who put the lock down on a site and the cts stop ts from breaking a site. Also to the majority of people not on csr the awp isn't over powered. Infact it is underpowered to most people. Ak and colts took over as the most dominant weapons in cs without a doubt in 1.5.
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Re:Sheild and Awp?
« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2003, 07:13:15 PM »
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I don•t know man if you get same one that knows how to use the awp your ****ed there is no stopping them
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Re:Sheild and Awp?
« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2003, 07:15:08 PM »
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that logic can be used with any weapon zeus.
a person who has deadly aim with a scout can be as dangerous, if not more dangerous then someone with an awp just for the fact that it is more accurate.
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« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2003, 07:19:28 PM »
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Your 100% right but the thing with the awp is that you don•t have to hit the person to kill them that•s why the awp is a beginners weapon
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Re:Sheild and Awp?
« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2003, 07:21:02 PM »
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| the thing with the awp is that you don•t have to hit the person to kill them |
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« Reply #15 on: September 17, 2003, 07:25:03 PM »
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Ok when I see same one that•s really good playing with the awp I notice that all u have to do is aim near them and it will hit them.
I might be seeing thing man but that•s what I saw more then once r it might just look like that to me I don•t know
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Re:Sheild and Awp?
« Reply #16 on: September 17, 2003, 07:28:18 PM »
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well the point i was making was that the game has been rebalanced drasticly and CSR is not really giving it a fair chance. i think 3 months would be fair to allow people to get used to the new weapons and map changes and to allow the developers time to tweak the new items. then a pole should be taken. i think this is a valid point.
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« Reply #17 on: September 17, 2003, 07:32:34 PM »
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I don•t know man if we had to vote my vote would be to take it out and other people would want it to stay there our two sides to it what can I say.
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Re:Sheild and Awp?
« Reply #18 on: September 17, 2003, 07:50:34 PM »
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Nittany pretty much explained the AWP well, it does not "kill" the gameplay it enhances it, I am my teams current awp player, but before i played only colts/ak's and did fine. AK and Colt are far superior weapons to an awp... The same argument applies that usually does: The people at CSR hate the awp because the majority of them do not know how to use it.
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Re:Sheild and Awp?
« Reply #19 on: September 17, 2003, 08:00:26 PM »
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Deuce the shot is not more accurate then an awp. You can strafe with a scout and have it be kind of accurate, but zoomed in both will have the same pinpoint accuracy.
Zues man. Watch a cpl demo. Watch a cal-i demo. Watch how awpers get destroyed all the time. These are the best awpers in the world to like Johnny R, Method, Shag, and element.
Before somone takes this as bring back the awp post, it isn't.
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« Reply #20 on: September 17, 2003, 08:28:10 PM »
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where van i get em ?
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« Reply #21 on: September 17, 2003, 08:38:14 PM »
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| Deuce the shot is not more accurate then an awp. You can strafe with a scout and have it be kind of accurate, but zoomed in both will have the same pinpoint accuracy. |
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thats what i meant.
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Re:Sheild and Awp?
« Reply #22 on: September 17, 2003, 08:49:05 PM »
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My beef with the AWP is that you can kill someone by shooting them in the foot. . .that's right. . .the FOOT. And don't tell me that it can't happen because that happened to me. Any gun that kill a person in ONE shot by shooting them in the foot is a bunch of HOOEY. I mean really? How realistic is that?
Sure, AWP'ers can get destroyed but the same counter-argument holds true: AWP'ers can destroy AK's and Colts.
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« Reply #23 on: September 17, 2003, 08:59:51 PM »
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My beef with the AWP is that you can kill someone by shooting them in the foot. . .that's right. . .the FOOT. And don't tell me that it can't happen because that happened to me. Any gun that kill a person in ONE shot by shooting them in the foot is a bunch of HOOEY. I mean really? How realistic is that?
Sure, AWP'ers can get destroyed but the same counter-argument holds true: AWP'ers can destroy AK's and Colts.
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ya thats what im saying
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Re:Sheild and Awp?
« Reply #24 on: September 17, 2003, 09:11:43 PM »
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FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS HOLY, YOU
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GOD!!!! why is it someone always says that??!?!?
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« Reply #25 on: September 17, 2003, 09:15:08 PM »
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FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS HOLY, YOU
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GOD!!!! why is it someone always says that??!?!?
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i knew that was coming
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« Reply #26 on: September 17, 2003, 09:16:34 PM »
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sorry if i over-reacted but i am tired of the same completely off base comments come up during every single thread about the awp, if your going to do something like ban a gun, at least make sure your argument is sound!
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« Reply #27 on: September 17, 2003, 09:29:41 PM »
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ya i have to agree with kaoz b/c i use the awp if i play on other servers...they dont kill below the waist unless they are injured already...i have had to shoot people more than once with the awp in order to kill them. Plus with this new version...it has no crosshairs so it does make it much more difficult to aim cause u have to judge where the middle is and then shoot which takes more time...they have made awp use i think harder...agree? disagree??
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« Reply #28 on: September 17, 2003, 09:47:46 PM »
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Okay..i am going to explain why i do not like the awp, and actually try to relate it to another game..Diablo 2
What is the connection? Let me explain the story..
Now back in the good ol days of D2, before Lord of Destruction came out with the duped .08 arkaines, the oculus rings, the ITH weapons..D2 player vs player (PvP) was a very entertaining, very challenging, and very rewarding. I had managed to create a very viable Necromancer Dueler that could take out anyone. It was good stuff.
Then came LoD. And with it came a certain unique exceptional weapon called the Buriza-Do Kyanon. Now what was so special about this weapon?
It had the highest damage of any exceptional (and even had higher damage then almost all of the unique elite weapons).
It had 100% to pierce (meaning an amazon using this combined with a skill called guided arrow could shoot anywere on screen..the arrow would come to you, hit you..pierce you..turn around..hit you again..pierce you..hit you again..ect..). In other words..in 1 shot, it could (and in 95% of the time) kill you.
It was so damn easy to get. For a weapon that is so over powered..it was easy to find. I had 4 of them.
This weapon RUINED PvP for me, and many many others. It became no fun when you had no chance to play against an amazon using this weapon. The weapon was dubbed "the NooB Cannon", the "Burrito", the "any 12 year old can use this weapon, have no skill, and kill anyone" weapon.
I relate the AWP to the Buriza. Sure..there are ways around it..i eventually made a new necromancer that was capable to defeat one.. but the fact that a weapon like that exists that is so overpowered and is abused..no matter what..you die more against it. really takes the fun out of the game for not only people who are seasoned at it..but for people just getting into the game. That is why I, and others i assume do not like the awp.
Please tell me if you don't think that isnt a sound argument... i'd be interested in knowing why
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« Reply #29 on: September 17, 2003, 10:10:08 PM »
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That argument at least has some facts to it.
i still stand by the argument that beating an AWP is remarkably easy, and thats why it should be allowed.
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« Reply #30 on: September 17, 2003, 10:12:47 PM »
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OH MY GOD seriously i have shot tons of people in the pinky finger, or the foot, and never killed them. Ya brought them to red, but in real life if i shot you in the foot with a high powered rifle you probally couldn't walk very far or run fast, so you would probally get shot by someone else and die.
STOP MAKING FALSE COMMENTS AOBUT THE AWP.
Deuce if someone is dead accurate with the scout and could get only headshots, then they are hacking.
As i rember playing in csr on italy yesterday, i rember Deuce and father ribs say that the shield is the best weapon, and i did not pick up any sarcasm. Now all the sudden the shield is bad.
I believe that the reason csr does not allow the awp is because most of the regulars/admins do not know how to use the awp or kill an awper. On dust 2 if a t is sitting back the ramp on long A, you do not stand out in the middle of the ramp up to bomb site a and try to usp the awper. YOU WAIT FOR HIM to come to you.
Cs was ment to be played with the awp, as for the shield it has many bugs and needs to be changed from it's state, i think that in the new 1.6 we should just try the awp for a while
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« Reply #31 on: September 17, 2003, 10:29:20 PM »
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| i rember Deuce and father ribs say that the shield is the best weapon, and i did not pick up any sarcasm. |
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you obviously need some practice then on picking up sarcasm
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right..because everytime they get on..they wet their pants when they see an awp because they are afraid someone using it will kill them
i imagine there is probably a better reason for why they banned it (that i am currently unaware of). agree with it or not..i doubt it will change. i already stated why i dont like it (see post from a few minutes ago). ask ribs..i'm sure he has the official reason behind it.
and on a side note..if the awp being in the game is suppose to be the way cs is played..doesnt that mean since valve put the shield in..thats the way its suppose to be played? using your argument that really doesnt work..
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« Reply #32 on: September 17, 2003, 10:41:04 PM »
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Actually, atleast the last part of his arguement makes perfect sense. Last time I checked the awp didn't have bugs like being fully protected and still being able to shoot. Or making it so you never have to reload. He said that the shield should be removed due to the bugs. Not because of the game play.
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« Reply #33 on: September 17, 2003, 10:45:08 PM »
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| Actually, atleast the last part of his arguement makes perfect sense. Last time I checked the awp didn't have bugs like being fully protected and still being able to shoot. Or making it so you never have to reload. He said that the shield should be removed due to the bugs. Not because of the game play. |
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« Reply #34 on: September 17, 2003, 10:48:39 PM »
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on another side note..why the hell hasnt valve taking advantage of this "great invention" called steam, fix the problem, and upload them so people can download it?
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« Reply #35 on: September 17, 2003, 10:49:31 PM »
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Whatever sea cow.
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Re:Sheild and Awp?
« Reply #36 on: September 17, 2003, 10:54:07 PM »
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LOL, listen to you people... seriously, holy ****!!
I say we just play with the AWP and shield, just until we at least hear if Steam is going to fix the shield bugs.. I really dont see what is so bad about AWP, i think CSR should at least give the AWP a chance.. even if it means keeping it for only a month or two, and then taking a vote...
TY, i think I've sayed enough here 
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Re:Sheild and Awp?
« Reply #37 on: September 17, 2003, 11:48:57 PM »
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Dust 2 from terror spawn all the way down both ramps to those doors at the bottom between bomb sites (right near the CT spawn.) I was picked off in one shot merely running past the doors. At first I thought, HACKS, but then I watched him 1st person. It wasn't an amazing shot...it was made easy by a gun that can shoot and get one shot kills VERY easily from clear across the map.
This particular player was VERY good at making such shots, and knew how to make use the map to his advantage for such shots.
Not to mention the fact that you take nearly no penalties for shooting while moving your sight rapidly or at close range.
Fact is, it completely makes the game unbalanced. If you limited the zoom more or something. Personally, I'd like to see alot more movement of sight penalties AND/OR more harsh walking/running penalties with this weapon before they try to incorperate it.
That's why I don't like AWP.
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« Reply #38 on: September 18, 2003, 12:54:12 AM »
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LOL, listen to you people... seriously, holy ****!!
I say we just play with the AWP and shield, just until we at least hear if Steam is going to fix the shield bugs.. I really dont see what is so bad about AWP, i think CSR should at least give the AWP a chance.. even if it means keeping it for only a month or two, and then taking a vote...
TY, i think I've sayed enough here
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We have had this decision over and over and over again the answer is going too be no its all going too be LONG GONE once porter gets things working so end of decision....this is really annoying too me that it cant get threw any of your heads....im sorry if im being harsh about it but it really does get on my nerves when people bring this subject up....just stick with the orginal rules off the server and just deal with it.... 
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« Reply #39 on: September 18, 2003, 06:59:13 AM »
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honestly.. i dont think people with the shields are all that safe....
first off, if the CTs make a wall of shields for example in the hall in dust.... then all you have to do is go bridge... or wait for them to come out.. just because you cant rush it, doesn't mean its impossible to defeat. I personally havent had much trouble killing someone with a shield... you move pretty slow when you have the shield up and all a T needs to do is run up on your side and pump bullets into your head.. infact i get more HS on shield holding CTs than any other time..
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« Reply #40 on: September 18, 2003, 07:47:37 AM »
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Tenshi.... that shot is insanely hard, the reaction time necessary for a mid shot on D2 is what separates the men from the boys
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« Reply #41 on: September 18, 2003, 07:50:09 AM »
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I don't feel like posting very much now because I have to go take a shower. Most of you know very little about the awp, but this is expected because most of the time you never play with or against it.
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« Reply #42 on: September 18, 2003, 08:18:16 AM »
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CSR has always been no AWP. This rule was possible to enforce because of supporting software. CSR is STILL no AWP. This rule is near impossible to enforce because of a LACK of supporting software. CSR will ALWAYS be no AWP. This rule will be enforced as soon as there is once again supporting software to facilitate it.
I can't understand why the same people keep thinking this is going to change. It's like going around rallying that America should become a dictatorship. It ain't gonna happen! You really want a dictatorship that badly? Go to Cuba or something.
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« Reply #43 on: September 18, 2003, 10:07:39 AM »
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And I would like to state that I'm personally offended by the ". . .csr does not allow the awp is because most of the regulars/admins do not know how to use the awp or kill an awper."
First off, I wasn't lying about dying by a foot shot. Makes me wish that I had had a screen shot now, but I don't so it doesn't matter. You can all sit there "secure" in your thinking that below-the-waist shots don't kill in one hit but I was a victim: full health, full armor, one shot, in the foot, DEAD. Believe it or not, it happened. I'm not going to waste any more breath trying to convince you people.
Secondly. . .look, kid, making a blanket statement about the skill level of the individuals at CSR with the AWP is completely unfounded, unfair, and, to be frank, insulting. I know plenty of individuals at CSR that love the AWP and are more than skillful with it. I'll admit that I can't claim to be fantastic with the AWP but that's because I have no desire to use a weapon that I don't feel is a balanced weapon and using it would go against self-imposed morals. And I'd like to explicitly state that I'm not complaining that I'm not good with the AWP (as to save any individuals from thinking they can try and tear me a new one by saying, "hypocrit! you say you don't like the AWP but that's only because you're not good with it!").
AWP has always been banned at CSR and we don't have to give it a chance. It had its chance at SR and it got banned. End of story. This has been said a MILLION times: if you want to AWP, then GO TO A DIFFERENT SERVER--cause once weapon restrictions are back up it's not going to be open to debate.
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« Reply #44 on: September 18, 2003, 11:02:40 AM »
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for all you people that think you are the shit with the AWP.... use the scout.. if your THAT FRIGGIN GOOD at sniping... they the scout should be all you need... I dont think people should really waste another breathe on the AWP issue.. the shield is yet another story.. but that of course needs patience as it is new and the AWP is STILL old news
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« Reply #45 on: September 18, 2003, 11:36:56 AM »
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So many unfounded blatently wrong moronic comments about the awp can't take it any longer brain going to sieze.
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« Reply #46 on: September 18, 2003, 11:43:11 AM »
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« Reply #47 on: September 18, 2003, 12:02:12 PM »
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for all you people that think you are the shit with the AWP.... use the scout.. if your THAT FRIGGIN GOOD at sniping... they the scout should be all you need... I dont think people should really waste another breathe on the AWP issue.. the shield is yet another story.. but that of course needs patience as it is new and the AWP is STILL old news
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Thank you, Fotty, I couldn't agree with you more.
And I am also a bit curious about to which comments nittany was referring. . .
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« Reply #48 on: September 18, 2003, 12:29:00 PM »
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Okay pk like the one where you said the awp can kill with a shot to the foot.
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« Reply #49 on: September 18, 2003, 01:41:22 PM »
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Okay pk like the one where you said the awp can kill with a shot to the foot.
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LOL.... well since I am sure he doesn't want to defend it.... I will.. I've seen it too.. I honestly can't recall if I had bought armor.. but I know I had full health.. i shot... right in the big toe.. and i was down... maybe it was the leg.. def below the belt though...
of course I have been shot by an awp and lived to tell about it (until the next shot of course)
and I was thinking about the whole shield thing a little more.. and I dont really see how its a HUGE advantage.. so when that vote comes around (if it is one) I say leave it.. it is really easy to overcome...
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« Reply #50 on: September 18, 2003, 02:28:07 PM »
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kaoz, i was implying that they guy wasn't hacking or anything fishy like that, not that it took no skill, my fault for implying otherwise, bad choice of words...but as you do state, it is possibly, and frankly, if you can even see that guy with a colt, and further get one hit in on him before he caps you, you're my hero. The point is, it would be ALOT harder for me to die in one shot with a scout, I'd at least have a fighting chance then, as it probably wouldn't be a OSK.
Fotty, I believe the reason that the shield will be banned isn't the unbalancing issue as much as the BUG issue. As I understand it, the whole reason behind disabling autoswitch is that quick switching to and/or from a HEG while possessing a shield implies server crash. I dunno about you, but I'd rather have auto-switch. Though I think that's the major bug I've seen/heard about, there are others...ya tried kneeling and walking with one yet?
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« Reply #51 on: September 18, 2003, 02:38:40 PM »
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YOU SOB!!!!
yeah I think it is because of the bug too... right now, BUT I have also read numerous posts about people claiming it to be unfair.. not only here on CSR but on other forums for CS, including ones for professional gaming leagues which are talking about banning it...
I honestly think the shield makes you a sitting duck.. cause when you put it to the side to fire your pistol, your head is just like "HEY SHOOT ME"
I have gone up against a bunch of shield weilding players and usually I have been pretty sucessful at killing them.. more so than if they had a colt...
The issue of them forming a massive line to shield the gun toting teammates behind them.. well you cant shoot through the shields.. but last i checked... they can't either.. so their line doesn't do much for the guys behind them to get any kills.. if anything leaves them open to feel safe and fall victim to a nade masacare... so maybe nades will be a little more of a strategy team effort on the T side now... doesn't sound horrible
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« Reply #52 on: September 18, 2003, 02:45:38 PM »
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If someone shot you in the foot and you died with full hp then the hit boxes were probably screwed up atm.
Who wants to see a demo of lan play at the esports world cup where a german clan pro pain takes out shagaur from zex with a ak hs through the double doors? And yes it was shag as ct after spawing going to defend b and yes the german player pret was shooting from his spawn. And yes this was at an international lan event with admins walking around to ensure no ghosting and other forms of cheating. There are many other cool things that happen. You must register to dl it.
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« Reply #53 on: September 18, 2003, 02:49:28 PM »
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BTW Porter, csr hasn't always been no awp.
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« Reply #54 on: September 18, 2003, 02:52:35 PM »
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super uber, mega elite german dude who might have got lucky with an ak, or AWP where you're able to get one or two kills per round with a bit of practice? I'm not saying it's impossible to do it with another weapon such as ak or colt, but MUCH harder, and less people attempt it because of the skill level change. Think about your skill...have you ever even attempted that shot?? I've never seen you, and I think you have some skill.
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« Reply #55 on: September 18, 2003, 02:59:19 PM »
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Fotty, I would love to see you try to take out a bugged shield, from what you say they are no problem for you. It's not like you even have to know how to make it bug, it can just happen for some people.
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« Reply #56 on: September 18, 2003, 03:06:11 PM »
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I guess i argue for the awp cause i think that some eyes can be opened, but most of them are shut far too hard.
Thanks for the polite debate though, Tenshi especially
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« Reply #57 on: September 18, 2003, 03:45:05 PM »
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Fotty, I would love to see you try to take out a bugged shield, from what you say they are no problem for you. It's not like you even have to know how to make it bug, it can just happen for some people.
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i know its buggy.. im saying when the bug is fixed
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« Reply #58 on: September 18, 2003, 04:10:05 PM »
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« Reply #59 on: September 18, 2003, 04:11:59 PM »
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Yes, I have tried and made that shot with a silenced colt along with awp.
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« Reply #60 on: September 18, 2003, 09:32:01 PM »
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BTW Porter, csr hasn't always been no awp.
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Nittany, there was never a time that SR or CSR enabled AWP, unless you count clan matches and the one time there was a bug and you could buy AWPs...
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« Reply #61 on: September 18, 2003, 10:31:10 PM »
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Good grief, leave it bloody well alone! Go start your own AWP ONLY server or something! Be JUST like the other 50,00 server out there!
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