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Freeze time?
« on: October 27, 2003, 05:03:07 PM »
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You know that pause at the beginning of each round when you can't move? That's the "freeze time."
I'm curious to know what you all think is the "perfect" amount of freeze time. Please choose the answer that's closest to what you would put it at if you were running your own server.
Also please take note that this doesn't mean we will definitely change CSR's setting to the most popular result (though we may if the response is strong enough).  This poll is the result of Grounded bringing the subject up.
Thanks!
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Re:Freeze time?
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2003, 05:19:06 PM »
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Question:
can different maps have different freeze times?
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Re:Freeze time?
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2003, 05:34:14 PM »
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Yeah, but it's a pain.
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Re:Freeze time?
« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2003, 04:24:42 AM »
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I see people are already voting for very low freeze times. Maybe I should lay out why I think these are too low.
1. If you don't have buy scripts then it's practically impossible to keep up with those who do. I know buy scripts are relatively easy to set up but since the server accommodates a wide range of skill levels it certainly shouldn't be assumed that everyone has them.
2. The freeze time might well be set at 3 seconds but it doesn't feel like that at all. 'Go go go' sounds almost immediately after spawning and I'd be very surprised if it was truly 3 seconds in real time.
3. For those of you who do you scripts, there is no real disadvantage to having a longer freeze time. Sure you might have to wait a couple of seconds but is that such a big deal? The issue here is really balancing. If you assume the better players have buy scripts then they are the ones who will get the headstart in the round and hence a further advantage over the lesser players. A couple of times I've been playing recently and a good team has rushed hard and completely overwhelmed the other team within seconds of the round start. One map in particular where this becomes a major factor is oilrig, seeing as the goal is just to kill one of the CT team.
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Re:Freeze time?
« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2003, 06:33:36 AM »
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6 seconds is a pretty good time I think. The buyscript advantage is huge when freezetime is low cos I use busyscripts and frequently do an instant purchase then leg it and catch CTs off guard. Usually Grounded for that matter.
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Re:Freeze time?
« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2003, 06:53:41 AM »
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i like the freeze time as it is..but the time on scoutzknivez needs to be at 0...help prevent spawn shooting
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Re:Freeze time?
« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2003, 07:14:57 AM »
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You could always work around that problem by ERASING SCOUTZKNIVEZ. Ahem.
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Re:Freeze time?
« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2003, 08:36:42 AM »
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I think anybody that likes to play scoutzknivez should have to put up with spawn shooting. That map is poorly designed from the ground up-- do you really expect somebody that's building a map for that kind of gameplay style to care about spawn shooting? ...or any other design elements for that matter?
No, I don't feel much like trying to fix a problem with a map that the designer did not anticipate by modifying the server. 
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Re:Freeze time?
« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2003, 08:45:41 AM »
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someones upset that their head was decapitated in a picture 
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Re:Freeze time?
« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2003, 01:05:51 PM »
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Re:Freeze time?
« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2003, 02:58:27 PM »
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You could always work around that problem by ERASING SCOUTZKNIVEZ. Ahem.
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True dat, true dat, erasing scoutzknivez would be fine by me. Of course that would be okay with ANY death map imho.
someones upset that their head was decapitated in a picture
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And, well this is just good situational comedy...I put down four seconds, because my ping can suck, I do NOT use buy scripts, and I can still be one of the first people out of the blocks, but some people with fast pings can still get a pretty good run on me. The extra second might not seem like much, but you'll see it more than you think, anyway, it's a compromise again, but I think it is worth it.
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Re:Freeze time?
« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2003, 04:53:56 PM »
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There are times when I rush on maps like d2 up short A as T and I can hear CTs still buying. I voted for four seconds.
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Re:Freeze time?
« Reply #12 on: October 28, 2003, 07:57:07 PM »
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i voted for 2, because i want pubs to go faster
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Re:Freeze time?
« Reply #13 on: October 28, 2003, 08:40:39 PM »
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1-3 is ok by me 
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Re:Freeze time?
« Reply #14 on: November 03, 2003, 05:58:47 PM »
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I voted for 4, then I read Kaoz's post and realized he's probably right...might as well speed things up a bit more. Oh well.
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Re:Freeze time?
« Reply #15 on: November 04, 2003, 11:35:41 AM »
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Okay, so all we've really determined is that the freeze time should NOT be 1 second?
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Re:Freeze time?
« Reply #16 on: November 04, 2003, 12:19:00 PM »
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i believe the poll has determined 3 seconds to be the time?
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Re:Freeze time?
« Reply #17 on: November 04, 2003, 01:39:44 PM »
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We should do this like the Conservative Party over here in the UK elects leaders.
From that vote the two options, with the two highest number of votes, would then be put to a final vote... therefore 0 seconds and 3 seconds up for the final vote...
I think its a good system.
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Re:Freeze time?
« Reply #18 on: November 04, 2003, 01:55:53 PM »
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It is called multi-member...
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Re:Freeze time?
« Reply #19 on: November 04, 2003, 02:00:13 PM »
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i think the first poll should be started over again with new options..because there are too many to pick from to get a majority.
the poll should have been
Less Time
Same Time
More Time
and from there you go into the details.
because despite the fact that 3 seconds and 0 seconds are the leading picks, the category "more time" is tied with "same time" and "less time" combined (more time-11, same time-5, less time-6)
see? the votes can be misleading.
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Re:Freeze time?
« Reply #20 on: November 04, 2003, 02:45:39 PM »
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Polls like this shouldn't be judged on the highest tally. That's why Deuce is making sense for once
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Re:Freeze time?
« Reply #21 on: November 04, 2003, 03:47:46 PM »
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Polls like this shouldn't be judged on the highest tally. That's why Deuce is making sense for once
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OMG man, you can't say things like that! You are just increasing the mans ego, and it can only lead to the pain and suffering of other egomaniacs in the world when he finally takes over the world because of the things like this that are said to him!
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Re:Freeze time?
« Reply #22 on: November 04, 2003, 04:57:05 PM »
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Polls like this shouldn't be judged on the highest tally. That's why Deuce is making sense for once
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OMG man, you can't say things like that! You are just increasing the mans ego, and it can only lead to the pain and suffering of other egomaniacs in the world when he finally takes over the world because of the things like this that are said to him!
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and grounded will be my vice president.
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Re:Freeze time?
« Reply #23 on: November 04, 2003, 05:41:54 PM »
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Polls like this shouldn't be judged on the highest tally. That's why Deuce is making sense for once
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OMG man, you can't say things like that! You are just increasing the mans ego, and it can only lead to the pain and suffering of other egomaniacs in the world when he finally takes over the world because of the things like this that are said to him!
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and grounded will be my vice president.
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Its a damn good thing I'll be the chairman or all hell would break loose ! 
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« Reply #24 on: November 05, 2003, 06:12:13 PM »
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because despite the fact that 3 seconds and 0 seconds are the leading picks, the category "more time" is tied with "same time" and "less time" combined (more time-11, same time-5, less time-6)
see? the votes can be misleading.
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thats statistics for ya. u can mold stats to say ANYTHING u want. What duece is stating is sort of like Simspon's Paradox. When combined, the data says one thing but when separated, the data can say the total opposite. For example, lets say there is a 60% acceptance rate for men and 40% acceptance rate for women in a Business and Law College. However, whent he data is separated into Business College and Law College, the data reads that 75% of females and 25% of males are accepted into each school. This is similar to the case that we have now. In the end, statistics are all just numbers that we can munipulate to say what we want them to say.
Sorry, i bet no one really cared about that.
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Re:Freeze time?
« Reply #25 on: November 05, 2003, 06:15:44 PM »
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i did..only because i'm in school for junk like this
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Re:Freeze time?
« Reply #26 on: November 05, 2003, 07:14:15 PM »
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it's "Assassin"
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« Reply #27 on: November 05, 2003, 07:26:35 PM »
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yes sadly i realized that after i hit submit...but all i have heard is that u cant chnage u profile now or something???? so i just left it....funny tho that u point it out now! hehe
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« Reply #28 on: November 05, 2003, 07:46:43 PM »
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well, i added this picture to my sig, i assume u can fix the typo :-p
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« Reply #29 on: November 05, 2003, 11:29:57 PM »
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nittany > kaoz w3 24-0!@!@!
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« Reply #30 on: November 06, 2003, 07:46:30 AM »
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kaoz > nittany @ anything but w3 24-0 !!!!!!11one
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Re:Freeze time?
« Reply #31 on: November 06, 2003, 11:58:36 AM »
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Yeah...
Considering you still compete in cs and I don't. Then I come ring for your clan and rape everyone (ff was on). Then in our 3 v 3's i'd be the mad clutch master. Then who came to me and asked if I wanted to join them and furious in making a new clan??? Also, on the hlstats I killed you in csr 3 times as many times as you killed me. That last one right there proves how much better I am because I killed you more times in csr!!!! O O O, but at eoa I could shoot at the ground and miss, so maybe now with the power i've put into the dkt pad, maybe now. Also, i'd beat you in any rts game. Who wants to play me in the origanal warcraft spearmen + demons> all of you. Who remembers black rock spire? The black morass? The original c&c nod vs. gdi. Oh yes, rts4life.
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Re:Freeze time?
« Reply #32 on: November 06, 2003, 12:16:14 PM »
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kyle get defensive
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Re:Freeze time?
« Reply #33 on: November 07, 2003, 12:34:07 AM »
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Not defensive.
Truthful...
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« Reply #34 on: November 07, 2003, 04:43:28 PM »
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it's the truth, but some long winded sarcasm if it was intended as so
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« Reply #35 on: November 19, 2003, 08:34:09 PM »
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black morass?? black rock spire? isnt that from warcraft 2? that was a good game
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