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Dancing Raddish
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How am i banned?
« on: April 08, 2004, 09:39:27 AM »
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I have played recently quite frequently since the telling of this server from father ribs. Yesterday I tried to come and play and it says you have been banned???? Huh i dont have hacks or anything like that can i be informed of my wrongdoing?
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Re:How am i banned?
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2004, 10:15:04 AM »
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why does this appear to be a reoccuring theme all of a sudden..
it would be best if you PM'd an admin the time and date that you last played..and the name you were under.
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Re:How am i banned?
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2004, 09:00:44 PM »
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deuce thats his only post ever, he's obviously new to the server/ at least the forums.
What i'm getting at, he doesn't know the rules.
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Re:How am i banned?
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2004, 01:04:12 PM »
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He's a guy I met from my NWN server. Apparantly he bought his own CS, and for some reason when he tries to connect he gets a "you have been banned from this server for cheating" message. Which sounds weird.
Try connecting and write down _exactly_ what it says next time...maybe this is a problem with steam, or someone stole your steam id.
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Re:How am i banned?
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2004, 03:16:48 PM »
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Yeah definately sounds like you found your cs key on the net. Thats the problem, or you bought it and like i've done before, bought cs then written down the cd key and then returned it and said sorry i was suppose to get ghost recon.
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Dancing Raddish
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Re:How am i banned?
« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2004, 10:02:55 AM »
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ill switch my steam id maybe thats it. I mean one day i try to log and it wont let me go into any of the secure servers..... i mean maybe somone stole my cd key or something... Do servers keep you banned or refresh it like in a month maybe? I could try to wait it out if thats the case
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Re:How am i banned?
« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2004, 10:29:38 AM »
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If none of our Admin Team can claim responsibility for your ban, then you were banned by VAC-- Valve's built-in Anti-Cheat system. For a period of one hour on April 1st, VAC accidentally banned about 2500 people, but Valve has already corrected this issue, and unbanned everyone effected by it. Assuming you weren't one of the 2500, there isn't much I can say if VAC caught you. Do you have a legit CD key of your own? And obviously: do you have any hacks or cheats installed? These are the only two remaining variables.
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Dancing Raddish
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Re:How am i banned?
« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2004, 10:06:26 AM »
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I did along time ago when i first started... maybe 4 months and maybe that did happen but not anymore.... maybe something is still installed and it caught it?
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Re:How am i banned?
« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2004, 11:03:43 AM »
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thats definately it. Most hacks put something in your registry. And it doens't usually get deleted, so thats probally the problem. Clear it from your registry and get a new cd key.
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Re:How am i banned?
« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2004, 12:01:18 PM »
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I did along time ago when i first started... maybe 4 months
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It took VAC 4 months to catch up? Wow they're slow.
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Re:How am i banned?
« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2004, 04:31:39 PM »
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New hacks come out daily. And they don't find every hack thats out for every update.
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Re:How am i banned?
« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2004, 12:36:22 AM »
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Still 4 months is an awfully long time. If it takes them that long, why bother?
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Re:How am i banned?
« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2004, 09:10:09 AM »
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Still 4 months is an awfully long time. If it takes them that long, why bother?
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Good question. On the other hand, only a week or two ago a new Valve employee started posting to the admin mailing lists-- seems they've actually put someone in charge of VAC, which also at least partially explains the explosion of updates lately. This is a HUGE problem to tackle, and I think Valve underestimated the manpower they need to devote to VAC in order to compete with the hacking sites. They are STILL horribly understaffed with only one person, but you can see the huge improvement just that made.
My only defense for the "why bother" question is because VAC represents the best form of defense against hackers. The cheat detection definitions are only stored in HLDS's memory allocation-- they never touch a hard disk. When clients connect, the server forces them to "download" a copy of these detection algorithms to THEIR memory-- but ONLY to memory. Again, the client never gets a copy of them anywhere but in RAM, and only for as long as the HL engine is connected to a server! That makes a LOT tougher for hackers to be able to analyze how VAC is catching them. Plus, since the whole system is so tightly integrated into the programs themselves, it's tougher to bypass (anybody remember PunkBuster?) And on top of all this, the delivery system is entirely automatic. This is the true beauty of Steam shining through all the mess they've made out of it. All Valve has to do is release an update, and every HLDS app out there running in "secure" mode is forced to update to it. Combine that with the fact that a client HAS to run the checks in order to be allowed to connect to the server, and you've got a pretty good (but not perfect) system. The current flaw is that the hackers have more manpower-- they have TONS of people who work every day to refine their hacks so they don't get caught. If Valve had more "police" that were actively searching these hacks out and writing code to detect them for VAC, you would see a HUGE increase in effectiveness.
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