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Enialators first appoved article!
« on: March 15, 2005, 09:22:01 AM »
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http://www.gotfrag.com/cs/features/comments/1253/ Original!!!!!!!!!!!!! So people did not have to click threw and cut out all the fluff!
I am passing on this info for nubs and regulars and hope that it will inspire people to start doing demo's on eachother to help all of our games. I have been doing what this guy said and agree with him completely, this is what I agree with from his article and have given my approval!
This game consists of two elements: thinking and aim. In all honesty, I'd say its about a 60% - 40%, but that 60% isn't going to where you would expect, it's for the in-game thinking each player should develop. One quote I have always lived by is, •It doesn't matter how good your aim is if you get shot in the back•.
The number one piece of advice I can give anyone is one word, demos. There is nothing on the planet that is going to get you better at this game than demos. Not playing 24 hours a day seven days a week or not even lessons that you pay for. Demos are going to be your best friend if you really strive to work your way to the top. When you have spare time and are bored sitting around the house download POV's and HLTV demos and just watch. When you are watching these demos always ask yourself one question, •Why?•.
Why did he throw this nade?
Why did he fall back right here?
Why is he rotating to this position once this teammate fell?
Why is this the first spot he checked?
All of these questions should be running through your head during each demo you watch, and even more questions than that. This is one of the most complex strategy based games out there, but you can teach yourself the logic of this game easily. Stop watching demos to see how cool the frags are, or how many people your favorite player can kill on a save round. Everytime you type •playdemo• in your console, it should be time to learn. If you don't learn something new from each demo you watch, you are wasting your time.
The next step is recording demos of yourself in scrims and matches. No, these aren't so you can make a frag movie that you and your friends love watching. This is so you can analyze yourself in your spare time when not watching top player POV and HLTV demos. When you watch your demos and you die, or you can't retake a bombsite, or your partner dies, ask yourself •Why?• more and more. Every time you step into a server, whether it be a pickup game or a CAL match, you should be working on eliminating each of your weaknesses. Even in a fool around pickup game, you should work on improving your personal in-game smarts. The best way to do this is by getting your best demos, the demos of you going absolutely insane, and then sit there and beat yourself up for all of the sloppy moves you made, or what you did to make your partner die in a bombsite.
If you can correct the best, you'll never stop learning.
When watching as a strat caller, the best thing you can do is treat it like your own personal best demo as I mentioned. Always look for mistakes. Look at the strat, play it in viewdemo so you can play it back three or four times. Keep asking •Why?•. Don't just ask why a team did this strat, ask yourself •Why did they do that this round?•, and more importantly, •What could they do to make this strat better?• This will help you more and more develop strats for your team with each demo you analyze.
The key is to watch all demos from the top teams around the world. No two teams have the same playing style. Not only will you be able to make better, modified strats from the top teams in the world, you can blend playing styles. You can have one round like NiP, the next round like GamerCo, the following like NoA, and a save round like 3D. You will be able to blend styles of all these teams, and even better yet, find the best style for your particular team to use that fits you the best. Sometimes this varies from map to map as well. People like Kaoz can be a huge information source for strats and suck his brain whenever I can. I would ask people start taking demos so we can critique and help each other, I would like to be able to compete some day.
I am going to cut this article off now and I feel it is in the right place. I could go on for about three times the length of this article about myths that will not make you better at this game as an individual, nor as a team, but I don't think that is the main focus of this article.
A few of you are probably thinking at the end of this article, •Why is Enialator trying to teach us to get better if he's not even one of the top players in a server?• Well, you can choose to take his advice or not. This is not an overnight success method; this takes months, maybe years. But I promise eventually you will not even need to watch the demos, all of the knowledge of the top players in the world will be pounded into your brain and every strat you call, flank you do, flashbang you throw, and even when you peek will all be reflex due to the fact that you know the greatest tendencies in this game, and that is going to give you the advantage over any opponent you face.
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Re:Enialators first article
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2005, 09:32:02 AM »
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Good Stuff Eni.
The original article is here for anyone thats interested in reading more.
http://www.gotfrag.com/cs/features/comments/1253/
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Re:Enialators first article
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2005, 09:50:18 AM »
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thats awfully uncool....
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« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2005, 10:58:59 AM »
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Eni you might want to make it clear that this is mostly quotage from another person - otherwise we're in line for some heinous plagiarism accusations.
For all the aspiring players out there I'd suggest playing for your team and having a laugh and then deciding whether it's worth studying CS like some sort of art.
I think you'll find that the higher you go in leagues and tournies it's neither about Aim nor Thinking but about Communication - underpinned with the basis of knowing and trusting your team.
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Re:Enialators first article
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2005, 01:45:39 PM »
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The sentence starts with passing on this info and I choped out the xtra fluff, I found the ARTICLE interesting and helpful and agree with it. I was hoping people would get involved with doing demo's for eacother. I will include original Author for plagerism implications next time, Skip has us covered already.
Just Boy brilliant since the article is about becoming a better startagies caller by wathching others. My hope is we do some demo's and believe this will help other become better players. I think you will find the community has seen me always be exstremly giving in helping and suggestions for in improving thier game play! i don't keep the info for myself I pass it along and this was the first Article from Mr. Eni that I have read and believe many others should know about! It has helped me play better and this article sums it up great, take it or leave it! I want to demo Kaoz, Mo$te so guys let me know if your down! Ciao, and now pass the tube!
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« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2005, 01:57:54 PM »
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One other thing, beside the beggining of the article and passing it along the grammer and spelling should have made it quiet obvious! 
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Re:Enialators first article
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2005, 01:58:49 PM »
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| I am passing on this info for nubs and regulars and hope that it will inspire people to start doing demo's on each other to help all of our games. |
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I don't see how that implies you "found" the information from some other source.
The title is also misleading as well, "Enialator's First Article", as that blatantly states that it is YOUR article.
Plagiarism is EXTREMELY dirty.
I'm sure you had good intentions, but your execution was terrible.
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Re:Enialators first article
« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2005, 02:23:41 PM »
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The sentence starts with passing on this info and I choped out the xtra fluff, I found the ARTICLE interesting and helpful and agree with it. I was hoping people would get involved with doing demo's for eacother. I will include original Author for plagerism implications next time, Skip has us covered already.
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A simple link to the original would have sufficed. You are portraying this work as your own, and by the fact that what you posted is still unchanged 30 minutes after you said you would change it is a disgrace. Get this turd off the forums please.
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« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2005, 02:40:51 PM »
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The sentence starts with passing on this info and I choped out the xtra fluff, I found the ARTICLE interesting and helpful and agree with it. I was hoping people would get involved with doing demo's for eacother. I will include original Author for plagerism implications next time, Skip has us covered already.
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A simple link to the original would have sufficed. You are portraying this work as your own, and by the fact that what you posted is still unchanged 30 minutes after you said you would change it is a disgrace. Get this turd off the forums please.
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« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2005, 02:52:38 PM »
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| I am passing on this info for nubs and regulars and hope that it will inspire people to start doing demo's on each other to help all of our games. |
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I don't see how that implies you "found" the information from some other source.
The title is also misleading as well, "Enialator's First Article", as that blatantly states that it is YOUR article.
Plagiarism is EXTREMELY dirty.
I'm sure you had good intentions, but your execution was terrible.
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Maybe I should have been more specific about passing on the same views I had from an article I read! I wonder about you pups in school using the internet, encyclopedias to do a paper on something. That you actually take fact from other people work and claim it as your own paper. I was passing on ifo from an article and it was obvious to me it was an article written by somebody else, jesus I do not know who the clans are listed in the article! If somebody asked who they are I would have said I do not know the original article was by somebody else. All you little boys so afraid that I am trying to make myself look good but was only passing on an article for our forams for our noobs and guys like me who are trying to get better. I was not doing this for my fame but to hopefully get people to read the article and do some demo's. I personally hate article forwaded because you have to sift threw all the crap and I wanted people to read just the points I agreed with, I AM NOT IN SCHOOL! I'll make sure in the future to always have the origianl links for all you who are sooooo offended. This place as usual is defensive, attacking and just another person besides Poerter and JustBoy we can now add Terraji to someone who say's leave or get rid of him!!!!
Noobs, guys I play with, read the article and get with me if you want to do some demo's I have a bunch of video editing software and want to not only help with strategies but also for some short movies of you playing. Enialator@msn.com let me know!
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Re:Enialators first appoved article!
« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2005, 03:31:19 PM »
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I am passing on this info for nubs and regulars and hope that it will inspire people to start doing demo's on eachother to help all of our games. I have been doing what this guy said and agree with him completely, this is what I agree with from his article and have given my approval!
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Just so everyone's clear here, this above paragraph was not in the original post that Eni made.
And for clarity, I called this article a turd, not you specifically Eni.
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« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2005, 04:27:10 PM »
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I was just saying that I don't agree with the article and that we would be at risk of plagiarism accusations if the author wasn't clearly cited. It's not an attack on you Eni, nor was it me being defensive, it was a pretty calm opinion. Why put up the jpegs? And what's all this chat about "you little boys" and "I AM NOT IN SCHOOL"? I don't understand that.
"Just Boy brilliant since the article is about becoming a better startagies caller by wathching others."
^^I don't know what this means. I understand the mispelt words but not the meaning of the sentence.
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Re:Enialators first appoved article!
« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2005, 05:19:10 PM »
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eni i would send you some really good demos i had of me when i was doing the best i could! but there gone now lol...
anyways i read the article and appreciated thast eni took out the extra crap 
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« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2005, 06:44:21 PM »
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I should really look into getting global moderating privileges...
Until then, I can edit your obscene pictures from showing. I can also give this warning:
By my count, you have violated the terms of agreement three times already in this thread.
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Re:Enialators first appoved article!
« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2005, 08:28:36 AM »
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I am passing on this info for nubs and regulars and hope that it will inspire people to start doing demo's on eachother to help all of our games. I have been doing what this guy said and agree with him completely, this is what I agree with from his article and have given my approval!
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Just so everyone's clear here, this above paragraph was not in the original post that Eni made.
And for clarity, I called this article a turd, not you specifically Eni.
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Thanks for all your positive input, if you dont like the article or agree KEEP IT TO MYOURSELF OR MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT SOMETHING THAT WILL HELP PEOPLES GAME INSTAED OF YOU WORTHLESS INPUT! Here I'll take up a bunch of wasted space for you too by quote the already obvious!
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« Reply #15 on: March 16, 2005, 08:44:44 AM »
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cool enialator .. i can make some demos and make the good parts into avi's and send them to you if you want .... just talk to me on msn ..you know my eamil
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« Reply #16 on: March 16, 2005, 08:48:56 AM »
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Eni you might want to make it clear that this is mostly quotage from another person - otherwise we're in line for some heinous plagiarism accusations.
For all the aspiring players out there I'd suggest playing for your team and having a laugh and then deciding whether it's worth studying CS like some sort of art.
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I was just saying that I don't agree with the article and that we would be at risk of plagiarism accusations if the author wasn't clearly cited. It's not an attack on you Eni, nor was it me being defensive, it was a pretty calm opinion. Why put up the jpegs? And what's all this chat about "you little boys" and "I AM NOT IN SCHOOL"? I don't understand that.
The bull crap here is because mostly of little boys trying to be men and stand for something! It's why we can go to war so easy their is always somebody ready to pump their chest, put somebody down start a fight! All the little boys here still in school that use other peoples info all the time and pass in little papers form somebody elses investigation or observations. They mix up a couple words pass it in to the teacher as thier own work. I thought it ws quite obvious in the vey first bleep sentence I am passing on this info, NOT THIS IS MY THERORY, MY IDEA, MY KNOWLEDGE, buit somebody PASSING ON INFO THAT I LEARNED! I made it easy to read and personalized in the hope of getting szome demo's done. Not thinking of putting the first post was my fault but my friend Skip covered me and that SHOULD HAVE BEEN IT! NO I GET ALL THE BLEEP-IN comments form people and YEAH I GET PO! Why because it's the same old BLEEP here all the time, I am here to help U BLEEP BEDY BLEEPS!
"Just Boy brilliant since the article is about becoming a better statagies caller by wathching others."
^^I don't know what this means. I understand the mispelt words but not the meaning of the sentence.
Just Boy you are pretty Brilliant in the gamehttp://www.gotfrag.com/cs/features/comments/1253/
When watching as a strat caller, the best thing you can do is treat it like your own personal best demo as I mentioned. Always look for mistakes. Look at the strat, play it in viewdemo so you can play it back three or four times. Keep asking •Why?•. Don't just ask why a team did this strat, ask yourself •Why did they do that this round?•, and more importantly, •What could they do to make this strat better?• This will help you more and more develop strats for your team with each demo you analyze.
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Does all of this deal with communicating? Your Brilliant and a person if you had not said some of the things you have said to me would want to demo you and discuss your strats, you would rather see me go away. |
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Re:Enialators first appoved article!
« Reply #17 on: March 16, 2005, 08:54:22 AM »
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cool enialator .. i can make some demos and make the good parts into avi's and send them to you if you want .... just talk to me on msn ..you know my eamil
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Sweet I have screenblast Studio software by Sony, and Sony's Acid Audio software and my camera is a cannon and use avi also! I'd love to demo with you and then crituque and talk about strats! maybe you can help me use my SOFTWARE! I am definately down I like your gameplay for sure Zeus! 
Oh and the picture is stolen! But I saw it the other day and thought of you!
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« Reply #18 on: March 16, 2005, 09:23:42 AM »
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Thanks for all your positive input, if you dont like the article or agree KEEP IT TO MYOURSELF OR MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT SOMETHING THAT WILL HELP PEOPLES GAME INSTAED OF YOU WORTHLESS INPUT! Here I'll take up a bunch of wasted space for you too by quote the already obvious!
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Did you make comment aboug something that will help peoples game? No, you ripped off some wise insight from someone else and dressed it up as your own. You can try and cover up that fact all you want, but we did read your original post and are not idiots. (And I have a record of it, by the way)
Was your input of any value? No, you didn't contribute any original ideas. You are a charletan.
By commiting the disgraceful act of blatant plagerism and posting it here, you devalue the entire community. What if word of this made it to the author? I know that this author is well know and well respected in the CS community and there would be alot of ill will towards you, and by association, our community. I think in the last day, you have proved beyond any doubt that you are not an asset to this community.
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« Reply #19 on: March 16, 2005, 09:38:14 AM »
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Thanks for all your positive input, if you dont like the article or agree KEEP IT TO MYOURSELF OR MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT SOMETHING THAT WILL HELP PEOPLES GAME INSTAED OF YOU WORTHLESS INPUT! Here I'll take up a bunch of wasted space for you too by quote the already obvious!
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Did you make comment aboug something that will help peoples game? No, you ripped off some wise insight from someone else and dressed it up as your own. You can try and cover up that fact all you want, but we did read your original post and are not idiots. (And I have a record of it, by the way)
Was your input of any value? No, you didn't contribute any original ideas. You are a charletan.
By commiting the disgraceful act of blatant plagerism and posting it here, you devalue the entire community. What if word of this made it to the author? I know that this author is well know and well respected in the CS community and there would be alot of ill will towards you, and by association, our community. I think in the last day, you have proved beyond any doubt that you are not an asset to this community.
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You can say whatever you say but the first person if anybody had of asked" Did you right this?" I would have responded of course not I passed it on and made it easy to read! But nobody did, Skip works with me and he knew without a doubt I had passed the info on! I work with a guy and he knows I would never know who the clans were or be able to make this up myself, so in NO WAY WAS I EVEN THINKING OF TRYING TO PASS IT AS MY OWN! Terraji your a joke and if I ever run into will show you what a charletan I am !!i!L!
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« Reply #20 on: March 16, 2005, 10:03:39 AM »
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You can say whatever you say but the first person if anybody had of asked" Did you right this?" I would have responded of course not I passed it on and made it easy to read! But nobody did, Skip works with me and he knew without a doubt I had passed the info on! I work with a guy and he knows I would never know who the clans were or be able to make this up myself, so in NO WAY WAS I EVEN THINKING OF TRYING TO PASS IT AS MY OWN! Terraji your a joke and if I ever run into will show you what a charletan I am !!i!L!
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« Reply #21 on: March 16, 2005, 10:06:18 AM »
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NO WAY WAS I EVEN THINKING OF TRYING TO PASS IT AS MY OWN!
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You are such a liar, it pains me.
Enialator's Article
I am passing on this info for nubs and regulars and hope that it will inspire people to start doing demo's on eachother to help all of our games.
This game consists of two elements: thinking and aim. In all honesty, I'd say its about a 60% - 40%, but that 60% isn't going to where you would expect, it's for the in-game thinking each player should develop. One quote I have always lived by is, It doesn't matter how good your aim is if you get shot in the back.
The number one piece of advice I can give anyone is one word, demos. There is nothing on the planet that is going to get you better at this game than demos. Not playing 24 hours a day seven days a week or not even lessons that you pay for. Demos are going to be your best friend if you really strive to work your way to the top. When you have spare time and are bored sitting around the house download POV's and HLTV demos and just watch. When you are watching these demos always ask yourself one question, Why?.
Why did he throw this nade?
Why did he fall back right here?
Why is he rotating to this position once this teammate fell?
Why is this the first spot he checked?
All of these questions should be running through your head during each demo you watch, and even more questions than that. This is one of the most complex strategy based games out there, but you can teach yourself the logic of this game easily. Stop watching demos to see how cool the frags are, or how many people your favorite player can kill on a save round. Everytime you type playdemo in your console, it should be time to learn. If you don't learn something new from each demo you watch, you are wasting your time.
The next step is recording demos of yourself in scrims and matches. No, these aren't so you can make a frag movie that you and your friends love watching. This is so you can analyze yourself in your spare time when not watching top player POV and HLTV demos. When you watch your demos and you die, or you can't retake a bombsite, or your partner dies, ask yourself Why? more and more. Every time you step into a server, whether it be a pickup game or a CAL match, you should be working on eliminating each of your weaknesses. Even in a fool around pickup game, you should work on improving your personal in-game smarts. The best way to do this is by getting your best demos, the demos of you going absolutely insane, and then sit there and beat yourself up for all of the sloppy moves you made, or what you did to make your partner die in a bombsite.
If you can correct the best, you'll never stop learning.
When watching as a strat caller, the best thing you can do is treat it like your own personal best demo as I mentioned. Always look for mistakes. Look at the strat, play it in viewdemo so you can play it back three or four times. Keep asking Why?. Don't just ask why a team did this strat, ask yourself Why did they do that this round?, and more importantly, What could they do to make this strat better? This will help you more and more develop strats for your team with each demo you analyze.
The key is to watch all demos from the top teams around the world. No two teams have the same playing style. Not only will you be able to make better, modified strats from the top teams in the world, you can blend playing styles. You can have one round like NiP, the next round like GamerCo, the following like NoA, and a save round like 3D. You will be able to blend styles of all these teams, and even better yet, find the best style for your particular team to use that fits you the best. Sometimes this varies from map to map as well. People like Kaoz can be a huge information source for strats and suck his brain whenever I can. I would ask people start taking demos so we can critique and help each other, I would like to be able to compete some day.
I am going to cut this article off now and I feel it is in the right place. I could go on for about three times the length of this article about myths that will not make you better at this game as an individual, nor as a team, but I don't think that is the main focus of this article.
A few of you are probably thinking at the end of this article, Why is Enialator trying to teach us to get better if he's not even one of the top players in a server? Well, you can choose to take my advice or not. This is not an overnight success method; this takes months, maybe years. But I promise eventually you will not even need to watch the demos, all of the knowledge of the top players in the world will be pounded into your brain and every strat you call, flank you do, flashbang you throw, and even when you peek will all be reflex due to the fact that you know the greatest tendencies in this game, and that is going to give you the advantage over any opponent you face.
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« Reply #22 on: March 16, 2005, 10:33:20 AM »
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Dude plain and simple you never asked! You have taken something that i was trying to do and help other and your selfish wacked little self has made it your try to be bigger and better than me! I AM DECIETFUL AND ALIAR AND AM TRYING TO DO NOTHING BUT TRICK ALL OF YOU! I knew I had Skip fooled even though he is in the next office. You win terraji your right as usaul and a best friend in the whole world, I am a terriost and you should watch your back from here on in!
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« Reply #23 on: March 16, 2005, 10:37:35 AM »
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Enialator the point is that you clearly are trying to pass it off as your own here. Your editting of the original is even specifically there just to tell us you wrote it. I am quite dissapointed over this, I've stood up and tried to defend you time and time again but this is something you don't have any support from me on. I think plageurizing someone else is wrong PERIOD and irrelevant of whether or not we're in school, they do it in college because it's a MORALLY WRONG thing to do, it's not just some stupid rule to be broken.
Considering the fact that most of the community here at CSR has a sound moral compass, did it ever occur to you that unless you made it absolutely clear this was'nt yours, you were going to insult alot of people?
EDIT: Those pictures are all out of line too! what is going on in your head???
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« Reply #24 on: March 16, 2005, 10:43:16 AM »
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A sentence that statrs off with passed info, you know what im out I have another place to go with my mates... Plagerism what a joke! Nobody asked me if I wrote it! I did not pass it on as my own but so it would be easy to read and I agree with it completely! Next time I'll slice it up and a dd a few things and call it my own!
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« Reply #25 on: March 16, 2005, 10:58:43 AM »
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Believe me, I will assist you with your leaving as soon as I can.
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« Reply #26 on: March 16, 2005, 11:36:47 AM »
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I "passed on" information in my article, but is IT plageurized?
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In no way would I be trying to make like it was my own, especially with YOU in the next office who would have askes "Did you right it!" It was so obvious to you you made sure to post original. Passed on info is exactly what it is and if The Plagerism police here think in anyway I was trying to make it my own, it was indorsment and made for eaasy reading, if you think otherwise I COULD CARE LESS! This was to get some Demoing done it was quiet obvious threw discussion I would be refering the original post. You guys think I am stupid don't you! I have no idea who the clan's are mentioned in the article and would have had to asked other people here. I knew peopl were going to ask who they were and I was just going to refer them to the server I got it from. Absolutely hillarious, Eni is a sham, an impersonantor, a plagorist, burn him at the stake! Keep it comin all your thought and opinions I'll put them in one of homes on the wall as my constitution!
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« Reply #29 on: March 16, 2005, 12:58:57 PM »
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Are you the real reason they put a bag at the end of your name!
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DEMO'S WILL IMPROVE YOUR GAME! YOU WILL LEARN OTHER PEOPLES TENDECIES! YOU WILL FIND BAD SPOTS, GOOD SPOTS, ANGLES, HIDING SPOTS, HOW TWO PEOPLE WORK TOGETHER OR MORE! FOCUS ON MY INTENTIONS TO HELP OTHER IMPROVE THEIR GAME AND I ENDORSE THE DEMO IDEA, I I I I I I I I, ME, ME!!
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« Reply #32 on: March 16, 2005, 01:42:50 PM »
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I will also say I have endorsed the Z Board and Skip has just gotten one himself, I am constantly sharing tips and ideas to help everyone improve their game! Be great if I did not have all these worthless interuptions, ask me next time before you accuse me, it's the law here!
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« Reply #33 on: March 16, 2005, 01:58:41 PM »
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This is from what is in the "article" right now.
| A few of you are probably thinking at the end of this article, •Why is Enialator trying to teach us to get better if he's not even one of the top players in a server?• |
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Your selective editing sucks, and your article is still plagerized.
Heres a guide:
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« Reply #34 on: March 16, 2005, 02:00:29 PM »
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This is from what is in the "article" right now.
| A few of you are probably thinking at the end of this article, •Why is Enialator trying to teach us to get better if he's not even one of the top players in a server?• |
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Ok thanks for your concern! I made it easy to read and agree with the PASSED on Info in my own words, but never would I have said I wrote this!
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I laughed so hard my insides hurt.
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Seeings how no one has bothered to lock this thread down I'll add my two cents.
I wanted to see what I could find for a definition of plagiarism and then maybe it will generate some constructive discussion, rather than name calling and flaming.
Plagiarism is defined by the Honor Council document as "the act of passing off as one's own the ideas or writings of another." In the Appendix to the Honor Council pamphlet called "Acknowledging the Work of Others" (which is used by permission of Cornell University), three simple conventions are presented for when you must provide a reference:
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Because I did not have the link and made it easy to read I am or give the source i am A PLAGERER! If anybody had have asked I would have given the source but Skip took care of that quickly, he knew I could not write something like that with no error's or so much insight! So really I was a plagerer for about 15 minutes before Skip gave origianl source! Too bad it tokk all fkin day to have only 15 minutes of crime to my name.
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« Reply #39 on: March 16, 2005, 04:06:55 PM »
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Because I did not have the link and made it easy to read I am or give the source i am A PLAGERER!
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Yes, yes you are.
Plagiarism is an extremely dirty thing. It's about as low as you can go. I'd more than likely scalp someone if they plagiarized one of the articles that I wrote for my school's newspaper.
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Plagiarism is an extremely dirty thing. It's about as low as you can go. I'd more than likely scalp someone if they plagiarized one of the articles that I wrote for my school's newspaper.
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HAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAH
yeah you better watch out...someone might just plagarise your verdict on the best hoagie in medford
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Because I did not have the link and made it easy to read I am or give the source i am A PLAGERER! If anybody had have asked I would have given the source but Skip took care of that quickly, he knew I could not write something like that with no error's or so much insight! So really I was a plagerer for about 15 minutes before Skip gave origianl source! Too bad it tokk all fkin day to have only 15 minutes of crime to my name.
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Plagiarism is an extremely dirty thing. It's about as low as you can go. I'd more than likely scalp someone if they plagiarized one of the articles that I wrote for my school's newspaper.
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yeah you better watch out...someone might just plagarise your verdict on the best hoagie in medford
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Wow, if the the moderators on this bored carred so much then why havent you deleted the article. And as for discrasing the community you would have already deleted this whole thread by now.
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For this particular forum, its moderator singular. The only person (outside of Porter) that can do it is Tenshi. Neither of them have been on the boards in a few days, otherwise this would have been deleted long ago.
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You make it sound like plagerism is the end of the world...
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You make it sound like plagerism is the end of the world...
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You make it sound like plagerism is the end of the world...
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If you plagiarize in school, it is the end of your world.
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Not true, In all high school's acedemic honesty policies that I googled, plagairism entails disciplinary action, and believe me, if you handed in an essay for grade 12 english that was composed the same way that Enialator put together 'his' 'article' it would end up on your permanant record, which would destroy your chances of getting into any post-secondary institution that checked it.
In post-secondary, they take it to a whole new level. Disciplinary action can include perminant expulsion, revvocation of past degrees earned, and even criminal charges.
If you plagairized in the workplace, there is a good chance you will be fired since it shows an incredible lack of integrity. (I'd hate to have your boss see what you are doing during office hours on this thread Eni)
Its a matter of honesty, and is unbelievably disrespectful to the author.
When I was in grade 10 everybody had to buy ti-83 programmable graphing calculators for math class (I am sure they still do in Alberta, good investment btw, I still use mine daily) and being the computer enthusiast that I am, I programmed a small game. It took me about 15 hours over a couple of evenings, since I didnt really know what I was doing. It had a nice little animated startup screen that slid the name of my game across the screen, along with my name. Everyone had link cables for their calculators, so my game spread around the school fairly quickly. The code for the programs were totally editable and everyone could open them up and change them around. Soon after I began sharing my game with my friends, I found out that half the kids had a version of it that now said "by Michael Siepert" instead of my name on the startup screen. I can't even describe how enraging that was. If I weren't such a pacifist (read: coward) I would have bootstomped the kid. Here I put all this effort into something with good intentions, and jackass here swoops in and tries to scoop up all the credit.
Plagairism is a crime with a victim, and I believe the author deserves an apology. It's called respect, Enialator, something that we value here.
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i only read about the first 2.5 pages of this thread, and it was more then i already wanted to see. I hate one people get angry and keep saying the same thing over and over again, which probably gives me enough reason to lock it right there.
This is the help and troubleshooting section of the forums, and this was off topic from the get go, and the constant bickering is off topic from the original topic. That being said, I'm locking it. For future reference the "article discussion section" would have been more appropriate.
Eni, if you or anyone else wants to get an article published on CSR in the future, please contact Porter or myself. A post in the "article discussion section" could also work.
If for some absolutely insane reason, someone wants to start up discussion on the article please goto the "article discussion section". To start up discussion on someone's actions, other posts, or other personnal issues, please take that discussion off of CSR's boards.  
Not trying to offend anyone, just keep the troubleshooting board clean and about technical computing issues please.
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I've just returned from a lovely Spring Break vacation with Yuna, and am not pleased with the things that have been going on here while I've been gone. I'm not the one that gets to decide what exactly happens to people who break the rules in the forums, but I can assure you that I will be asking the Admin Team for suggestions regarding disciplinary action for Enialator.
It's quite clear to me that Eni had no problem taking only the parts of someone else's article that he liked and posting them as his own, even editing them to add his own name. As others have already said, this type of behavior is simply detestable, and can not be tolerated here if we want to think of ourselves as a "respectable" community. Regardless of whether it was "intentional" or "accidental," it's still called plagiarism, and at my college, it gets you expelled.
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On a side note, I'm very disappointed to hear a comment like this from one of our own Admins.  It certainly is NOT the "end of the world," but that doesn't make it any less reproachable. You would probably be pretty pissed if I walked into your room and stole your computer without asking, and an article like this is just as much a "tangible" possession as a computer: the person who wrote it put a lot of time and effort and energy into it, and having someone else just take it and call it their own is a wholly awful thing.
Anyway, anyone who has any further comments should feel completely free to contact me directly. Keep in mind I'm not in charge of deciding what is to be done, but I will make sure any opinions make their way to the Admin Team. In particular, I would like to hear from people about what they think of the situation and what action should be taken as far as Eni goes. Your can PM me or email me.
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[Wumpa] Porter
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