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StealthMode
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Stacking on server....
« on: May 13, 2003, 03:06:19 PM »
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A few diff times today diff ppl were stackin it up in game.
The most recent examply is RIGHT NOW.
Map: cs_assault (EDIT: bad :EDIT stock version, not the 1337 upc version).
Teams: random pub clanners and non clanners on t, ALL GUARDIAN, and GUH on ct. You wanna practice GO ARRANGE A SCRIMMAGE VS ANOTHER CLAN. You dont stack teams on the pub server. Thats BS! Do not stack teams, it sucks. How would you like it if I got all of HOLY stacking teams? You wouldnt cause it would be no fun. YOU WANT TO PRACTICE GO SET UP A SCRIM WITH ANOTHER CLAN. YOU DONT PRACTICE AS A CLAN VS. PPL WHO ALMOST NEVER PLAYED WITH EACH OTHER. No offense but GUARDIAN IS DA n()()Bs for that.
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Re:Stacking on server....
« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2003, 03:36:21 PM »
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Stealth~
I can understand your discontent, however, venting your anger in the forums is not a good thing to do. If something ticked you off then that's perfectly acceptable, but don't bring your anger to the forums. Let yourself cool down before you make a post like that. What you have to complain about may be fair and valid, but yelling and screaming about it won't make your appeal any stronger, only weaker. There's no reason to attack the skill of other players, none, no matter the situation. We like to endorse respect and good sportsmanship here at CSR, not anger.
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Re:Stacking on server....
« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2003, 03:45:12 PM »
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i am just saying this in defence of -guH- cause it was mentioned, but i only see 1 -guH- member in there (drake) and he is on t, not ct.
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Re:Stacking on server....
« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2003, 03:53:49 PM »
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that ss was when I joined, he joined ct right before I left. And I respect those that respect the game. stacking teams shows a lack of respect. People who STACK teams get no respect. Because team stacking is assanine and unworthy of respect.
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Re:Stacking on server....
« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2003, 04:13:57 PM »
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yeah but what is the matter i mean when your clan or Most clans are playing cs on the same server they like to be with one another on the same team! i have no problem with this and another thing they were ct!! Those t's should have been doing fine considering that is the easiest map for a t to be on and rape!
maybe we should bring back the... uhhh.... cant remember the name of it?!? the thing that MADE people like either the top or second best switch?! eh someone will know!
and then when we do figure this out maybe we should have a vote or poll to see if people want it back?
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Re:Stacking on server....
« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2003, 04:37:33 PM »
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Phaohotops autoTeam Balancer aka PTB. If configged correctly yeah that would be nice to see.
Far as I know =]H[= does not stack teams. We try to seperate on server to pair off against each other to keep balance. This incident today with Guardian is going to force us to re-evaluate this policy though. Maybe we will start stacking teams up like Guardian. Of course, then people will be complaining even more about stackage. Cause most of our members our highly skilled.
But I am all for PTB, its a good way to keep teams from being stacked like that. So long as its configged right.
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Re:Stacking on server....
« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2003, 04:50:35 PM »
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I'm a fan of PTB but that being said most people aren't.
It can be configured correctly; and it can be useful but at the end of the day it ties into some issues that can not be addressed by software.
Part of PTB is to balance teams and keep down the "stacking". It works well (when configured correctly) but you have to ask yourself what your need for that software is. Most people state the need to seperate skilled players so that each team can have a balanced skill level. Why? The truth of the matter is that after you get your ass kicked enough you learn to play CS better. Nobody likes to loose but losing is part of what makes you a better player; learning how NOT to move; or where NOT to hide.
For those of you who take no joy out of playing agaisnt a stacked team; I can understand your frustration to a point but by that same token you should be interested in the game; not the stats.
Clans stacking a pub can be lame or cool; it realy just depends on the mood. I love playing vs clans; even with unstructured teams (ie. not my "clan"). Its interesting to see how YOU stack up; and indeed how flexible you can be to yourself and your teammates.
Lastly; those who know don't care about stats and those in the REAL know truely don't care about your K:D ratio; they like to see your name up for the Most Damage Done each and every round 
I have no problems with PTB personaly but I think the majority of people want it for the wrong reasons.
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Re:Stacking on server....
« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2003, 04:55:48 PM »
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This is not a good avenue of discussion here Stealth. Using one instance on one map to inspire such behavior from you in unacceptable. I think you're taking this way out of proportion and I reiterate that perhaps you should have a calm, cool, demeanor before you make posts. It is possible to approach this issue maturely and appropriately--the way you're approaching this is not either.
As for your respect comment. I know that I can't speak for the entire community or it's administrative team but I can speak as an admin of the server: there are plenty of servers out there Stealth, if you don't like the way things are run here then go somewhere else. On the other hand, if there's something here that you don't care for and you would like to bring it up in an adult fashion then the adminstrators will address the issue. The admins are here to work for the betterment of the server as a whole; but taking things into your own hands won't solve anything, it will only make more problems.
Remember, you choose to be here Stealth, and by choosing to be here you choose to accept the terms by which we want to run this server. The good majority of this server wants to see and feel mutual respect among all it's players. We're not asking you to like anyone, just don't go being disrespectful.
Also, I am unaware of your status/rank/position in the Holy clan, but perhaps it's not best to speak for your entire clan in the way you have.
My final advice is that if you really are that disgruntled about this then PM an admin and an admin will resolve the issue.
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Re:Stacking on server....
« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2003, 06:06:24 PM »
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Wow, long posts, cant we all just get along!
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Re:Stacking on server....
« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2003, 11:52:44 PM »
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Now I woulda left it alone cept a few comments made in that last post. How would my clanmates feel about my posts and stacking on this server? Actually, I think some would just outright curse them out. I think the way I worded it was rather civil while GETTING MY POINT ACROSS.
I see that another thread was started about PTB as a result of this issue. So obviously there is a problem here. Although the suggestion is to UNSTACK THE TEAMS WHEN ASKED. Which most ppl do. Cept one problem, they were asked to unstack the teams. To which the reply was: no we're practicing.
Ok, so I come here and I post about how n()()b it is to stack teams (which it is, and I coulda used worse language but I bit my tongue). Then I get ONE person who replies with oh but that is the wrong way to go about it.
Sorry, but imo thats the only way to go about it, now everyone is aware of it, so if it happens, then others will start stacking too.
You hint at us moving on? Do you realize what a valuable resource you will lose in myself and my clanmates? I guess not or you would have never suggested that.
I also hear your one voice in a community of many. And I am choosing to IGNORE it. My comments are benign, nothing is flaming except the accusation of stacking, which is against server policy and not a flame, but a statement. What you are reading into it I dunno. But the fact is, stacking is bs.
I re-read my post, there is no anger there. There is statements about what a clan should do if they want to practice, and its in caps so they PAY ATTENTION to it. BUT NOWHERE IS THERE ANGER SHOWN.
However, your allegations that their is anger is a lil perturbing. Are you judging me? Do you even know what anger is? Are you a licensed clinical psychologist able to diagnose what anger is? Dont pick a fight with me cause I brought something to the communities attention. Nowhere in the initial post is "anger" expressed. Throughout the post I am giving advice of what a clan should do if they want to practice.
Now if I were angry, that advice would not be there. It would be replaced with oh about 50,000 expletives. Cause trust me, I am ex-Navy, and when I am angry you will know it, cause any church going person would cringe from the way I would express my anger with words. Thank you.
I also ask you to look at the topic in their forums, where I posted about this, and AGAIN did not express anger. http://www.csreloaded.com/yabbse/index.php?board=13;action=display;threadid=144
If the stacking continues be prepared for stacking of ungodly proportions to begin. That is all I am going to say.
I re-edited it to remove the word that was taken in the wrong context. It was replaced with a more choice and appropriate word....n()()b. 
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Re:Stacking on server....
« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2003, 01:34:41 AM »
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:: SPRAYS BLOODY FIREHOSE ON EVERYONE ::
Guys, he's not saying anything we haven't said ourselves dozens of times...I for one 100% agree with him. Maybe he said it "loud" but we're jumping all over him for the conveyance, not the message. It IS annoying to be on the losing side. As more and more of the old crew come back it's getting tougher and tougher and we all have to keep an eye on keeping the game competitive, if not exactly at parity.
Old CSR went through a lot of garbage over the balancing teams issue...and while it's honorable to stick it out when you're getting 5-13 or worse, what I always thought one of the goals of CSR was to ensure enjoyment for all players, not just the |337.
Personally, if that vanilla assault comes on though, you HAVE to stack teams in favor of CT. If Ts lose that map it's due to some heavy coordination and skill issues on their part. Seems everyone has the _upc version from the times we've voted it in, can we do a poll to have it replace vanilla on the rotation?
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Re:Stacking on server....
« Reply #11 on: May 14, 2003, 01:36:23 AM »
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I'll start off by apologizing Stealth. By no means am I out to judge you and I apologize that it came across as such. Perhaps I did interpret your first post a bit hastily but hopefully you do see where I would get that impression. Using all capital letters in an environment where actual emotion displayed with such a degree of difficultly will more often than not result in an interpretation of greater intensity, or even anger, when the context dictates as such. Even still, I apologize if I offended you.
And for the record, PTB has been an issue with CSR long before you came to CSR Stealth.
As for my "hinting of your clan moving on"--I have fragged with Grail for about 2 years and as any Wumpa will tell you, Holy and Wumpa were practically brothers at one point in time. Whether you believe me or not, I have no desire to see anyone, let alone the Holy clan, leave this server.
Your last reply seemed to be for the purpose of clarification, I have a similar intent with this post. Again, I had no intention of offending you Stealth.
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Re:Stacking on server....
« Reply #12 on: May 14, 2003, 06:45:46 AM »
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Umm, talk about H not stacking teams? i remember once on aztec it was me and 2 random people (not regulars, and definitely new to the game) and there were literally, 4-5 Holy members on the other team. Maybe you were not one of them but i'd make sure you apply this argument to your own team.
on another note, i agree %100 with everything you said.
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Re:Stacking on server....
« Reply #13 on: May 14, 2003, 07:22:41 AM »
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OK, my brain hurts...
If you're in game and you think that the teams are stacked, well, either switch sides (if you're on the stacked team) or ask someone on the other team to switch (if you're on the non stacked team). I will always switch if asked, as I'm sure almost all of the regs here would.
Problem solved. 
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Re:Stacking on server....
« Reply #14 on: May 14, 2003, 11:40:19 AM »
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| Ok, so I come here and I post about how gay it is to stack teams (which it is, and I coulda used worse language but I bit my tongue). Then I get ONE person who replies with oh but that is the wrong way to go about it. |
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Actually, that is inadvisable way to go about it too. I don't think it is appropriate to use someone's sexual preference as a slur, no matter the environment, no matter the context. Saying something is "gay" and meaning it in a derrogatory fashion is very not acceptable here. I would ask you to please edit your posts or they will simply be deleted.
As for the topic at hand, thank you for bringing the issue to our attention, though as has also been commented on already, we have been aware of this situation for way longer than you yourself have been here. And as Raven said, perhaps your method of doing that did not come across as...politely...as you intended it.
Nevertheless, it is important to realize that this is one of those things that will always be an issue in a game such as CS. Things like PTB are never going to shut everybody up, they'll just get used as excuses for not really dealing with a problem.
This particular problem has plenty of arguments both ways. CSR is the home of a number of clans, meaning this is their clan's server. While it is still open to the public, it is often used for clan-oriented purposes. There are lots of times when TWB, Wumpa, Guardian, Guh or the like will happened to be in the server together, and clans being what they are, they will want to play as a team. This is usually my own personal preference as well (though it's also because I'd rather be playing with Raven and Ryo than against them!).
On the other hand, as you have stated SM, stacking can be no fun at all if the other team is uncoordinated and gets routed. The thing to remember in this case is what Scoobs said: CSR is about becoming a better player, and nothing will improve your skills faster than learning what NOT to do in-game. Playing against a clan is a great way to learn, honestly.
The average "Player" that joins CSR without ever having visited these forums isn't going to think so though, which is why it is up to the CSR Regulars to sense the mood of the server and try to act in a mature and reasonable fashion.
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Re:Stacking on server....
« Reply #15 on: May 14, 2003, 11:13:18 PM »
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Stealthmode,
I find your anger on this topic absolutely ridiculous, and I'd like to point out to the community that every effort to make the game enjoyable to everyone on the server was taken. I've already PM-ed Stealthmode about this once in our clan forum, and now have to re-type everything since he thought it bad enough to bring out here...
We first of all, we asked EVERYONE in the map if it was okay to stack teams, granted, Stealthmode wasn't there at the time, and had he said something we would have changed, but we DID ask, and informed people that we really just wanted to start working as a team.
secondly, a map change was requested when we came in. so since everyone was nice enough to let us stack, we switched it to assualt, and took the harder side of the map (the CT side )
as a third point, i'd like to point out that stealthmode was 0 for 0, which means he never played, nor do i remember him playing that whole map. the score didn't stay that bad for long, as the T's quickly caught on, and i don't think we won another round for about the next 4 or 5 rounds. i think the final score ended up rather close (3 i think?)
further, we are a young clan. The youngest on the server to my knowledge. We just started when CSR came back this last time (at least we finally got more than one of us online at the same time). We've NEVER had an official practice, and after our first scrim being a SLAUGHTER, we found it best to start working as a team. Yes, i understand that the people we were facing at the time weren't used to working with each other, but the point was that was the FIRST step we were trying to take in a long road of becoming a competitive clan.
Finally, i think the tone of stealth's original post is by far the most defamatory and rude post i've ever seen on this forum. The tone implies that we are scum and that we are nearly criminals. This is not the case, we have made every effort to ensure a positive gaming experience for every player. The next map (dust) came up and our clan stacking made things uneven, the teams were quickly switched to an even number of clan mates on either side, and teams adjusted as close as we could make them.
I'm sorry stealth, but i don't see you beef, and i don't understand your frustration with this situation.
As I type this, two other guardians stand behind me supporting my post.
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Re:Stacking on server....
« Reply #16 on: May 15, 2003, 12:08:42 AM »
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Looking back on all this, pretty much everything here seems rather pointless. We haven't really accomplished anything other than a lot of strong talk back and forth.
I think a good rule of thumb--one that I try to follow (but isn't always possible seeing as it's partly my responsibility to make sure the T&C's areond here are enforced)--is if you are really upset about something here at CSR, wait for at least 24 hours before posting about it. If you're still peeved enough to post after that amount of time, go ahead... but at least make sure that interrim period of time isn't a waste: use it to really consider what you're posting about and why you feel you want to post so badly. Then make sure you have a valid point to make and that you can back it up with reasonable logic.
90% of the time that things go haywire in these forums, it's because something has been said in haste. It's usually something that wouldn't have been said (or wouldn't have been said as poorly or as inappropriately) if the author had taken a little time to sit back and really consider the situation.The worst examples of this effect are direct contributors to why CSR has "died" twice already in it's history. It's time to learn our lesson.
And that's exactly the lesson to learn from all this my friends: think before you type. In any case, it's important to realize that no harm has been done here other than those strong words, which are easily enough dismissed by everyone involved. I can see no reason why the topic can't be dropped and life can proceed as normal with this new lesson fresh in our minds.
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Re:Stacking on server....
« Reply #17 on: May 15, 2003, 05:18:43 AM »
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Yes. Good advice Porter. Also, if you feel you want to vent and show lots of anger, just PM one of us admins. We don't really care if you swear or rant to us in private  .
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« Reply #18 on: May 15, 2003, 08:46:53 AM »
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Yes! Also an excellent point. Thanks for bringing that up MM! Ribs, Ryo, MM and myself will usually be happy to help address any concerns you have. If you have somthing you really don't think is appropriate for the whole community to hear, gripe to one of us! You'll feel better, I promise.
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Re:Stacking on server....
« Reply #19 on: May 15, 2003, 08:55:21 AM »
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Stacking CT is fine on cs_assault - it's stacking T that is weak. That map is soooo one-sided. I do get pissed off at stacking though, usually when I'm in I just ask the person top of the stacked team to switch. If it's someone reasonable like Kaoz or Ayo then they will invariably do it. Politeness goes a long way. Not saying your impolite of anything. I guess I'm just scared by your flashing animated gif which makes you look vaguely like a serial killer. No offence by that either. I think this issue may be over now anyway - I'm just adding my latent opinions. Not trying to be the antagonist - speaking of antagonists...anyone seen Primer lately?
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Re:Stacking on server....
« Reply #20 on: May 15, 2003, 09:18:42 AM »
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STACKING is OKAY then! alrighty, then be ready for some holiness handed to you! 
hey SM, they say it's okay so let's stack and let them eat their words
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Re:Stacking on server....
« Reply #21 on: May 15, 2003, 12:49:19 PM »
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LMAO. Again someone refers to me being "angry" in my posts. Ok in a nutshell to lay it out in laymens terms so you can understand 150% here.....
If I am angry, most of my posts would include about 75% profanity. Im a sailor, well ex-sailor now. But I was indoctrinated in the age old Navy ritual of using about 4 abusive words per sentence when I am angry about something.
Anger, expressed by me, is full of expletives. If you go back through the posts THERE ARE NONE! What does that tell the average j0e? I am not angry!
It takes a lot (most times) to get me angry to the point where I make a preacher cringe. Other times (like when I see hackers) it takes the slightest thing to set me off. Nowhere on these forums do I display what would be construed as anger. You are misinterpreting things rather badly. If I may I will show you what I would have said if I were truely angry at what happened....THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF ANGER ONLY!
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The above was merely an example. And should in no way shape or form be taken to heart. I dont feel that way about the issue, nor do I hold any anger towards anyone for what happened. It was a SAD incident, that upset me enough to voice my opinion constructively. While some people are saying I was angry, the fact is I am and was not. Had I been something similar to the all caps above would have replaced the cool tone of my posts. Thank you for your time and attention to this matter.
YEah I hear ya porter, maybe you should speak with the guy who keeps saying Im angry, cause thats the only reason I posted the example in the first place. And yes, I am getting tired of stating that Im not angry. So yeah maybe you should talk with that other guy.
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Re:Stacking on server....
« Reply #22 on: May 15, 2003, 01:23:21 PM »
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As much as I appreciate your example, it would probably be wise to try to follow the same rules CSR has in-game: namely keeping the swearing to a minimum. Even in a post meant solely as an example such as yours. Perhaps allowing our members to use their imaginations would be more appropriate?
"Imagine some really filthy language concerning my dislike of stacking the teams here."
...or something of that sort. I have to admit, I am getting tired of having to ask you to edit your posts so frequently SM, but I nevertheless have a job to do here. 
I understand you are trying to relate your own personal standard of what you consider "anger," but I am getting the impression (based on how many people here think you are angry) that the general populous has a slightly more strict idea of "anger" than you do. What you think is simply venting frustration is coming across as bad tempered fury to everyone else. Naturally there is nothing wrong with either of these two facts in themselves, but realizing that they both exist will help you relate to the community more effectively and will likewise help the community better understand you in the future.
And here's the end: Pay attention people! There really isn't any reason for this discussion to continue! 
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Re:Stacking on server....
« Reply #23 on: May 15, 2003, 01:29:27 PM »
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LOL that one post was hilarious, well sorry if real life images of me a few years back (when I was still a part of the Navy and attached to a SEAL team) scare you. They are mere images of my life, albeit images of a life I once led. BUt serial killer? ROFL, do you know that most "serial killers" actually look no different then the average j0e?
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« Reply #24 on: May 15, 2003, 01:29:58 PM »
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STACKING is OKAY then! alrighty, then be ready for some holiness handed to you!
hey SM, they say it's okay so let's stack and let them eat their words
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I'm stupified. Did you actually read anything that's been said here?? 
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Re:Stacking on server....
« Reply #25 on: May 15, 2003, 01:39:38 PM »
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Porter he was reffering to the post where #1 guardian claims they asked everyone (I was there for end of the last map before X changed it to assault, I clearly stated NO DONT). I left came back got screenie, asked em to even teams, they refused, I came to forums, here we are again....#2 one of the admin team, says its "fine" to stack teams as long as its the weaker team. You guys need to get a clear policy on this, cause even your admins are contradicting each other. Dont jump on Lik for his rebuttal to the two mentioned posts. My reply wouldnt have been as nice. Imagine a post FULL of colorful expletives about how stacked things were about to become....
So how is this remedied? I guess a policy needs to be made, and it needs to be put forth as a policy, and every admin must know of it. Otherwise you got members of the admin team stating its ok to stack as long as you stack the harder team....
And please dont jump Holy members for merely rebutting politely what your admins contradicted your own policies on...
Lastly, we are adopting a policy of our own, if we see stacked teams in game, we are going to stack teams worse. AT least until a CLEAR, SET, policy is made, that ALL ADMINS ADHERE to.
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Re:Stacking on server....
« Reply #26 on: May 15, 2003, 02:41:37 PM »
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Stacking CT is fine on cs_assault - it's stacking T that is weak. That map is soooo one-sided. I do get pissed off at stacking though, usually when I'm in I just ask the person top of the stacked team to switch. If it's someone reasonable like Kaoz or Ayo then they will invariably do it. Politeness goes a long way. Not saying your impolite of anything. I guess I'm just scared by your flashing animated gif which makes you look vaguely like a serial killer. No offence by that either. I think this issue may be over now anyway - I'm just adding my latent opinions. Not trying to be the antagonist - speaking of antagonists...anyone seen Primer lately?
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he said stacking is fine, that's all i need for ammo
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« Reply #27 on: May 15, 2003, 03:04:25 PM »
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couple of things. First off, Stealthmode, i love the picture of the guy with the shirt that says i'm a bomb tech. thats just hilarioius!!!!
secondly, lik, i believe justboy was saying its "alright" to stack ct on assault b/c the ct's have such a disadvantage from the get-go on that map. To give the cts a more fighting chance, the better players should go ct. if it gets out of hand tho in which the t's arent winning, then of course teams need to be evened out. but honestly, even with better players still on ct, most of the time the terrorists win on assault b/c it is so easy to win on assault with t's. Justboy did not say that teams can be stacked all the time on any map, thats putting words in justboy's very scottish mouth.
thirdly, team stacking actually, from what i have seen, has not been a major issue here. the only instances that i have seen or heard of stacking is yours, SM, and i can recall maybe 2 others. i would say 99.9% of the regulars here will switch when asked to even up the teams. If it really does go out of hand, there is almost always an admin on the server so they can say to even the teams or use their admin_t admin_ct power to do so manually. however, just asking to even up the teams will do so. I believe that this incident being brought up was an isolated one.
besides, tenshi said that gaurdian was still having dificultly on ct (who wouldnt on assault being ct??) and he said they only won by like 3 rounds? this does not seem to be stacking. I was in the sever playing and the final score in rounds was 20-0. I was on the losing team (originally on the winning team, but when asked to switch, i did) with a regular or 2 and a couple of new players to cs. It was towards teh end of the map so i didnt care. This incident was far worse and un-fun than assault seemed like. Yes, sometimes team stacking does occur and yes it really does suck. however, just ask to even up the teams a couple of times when everyone is alive. ask individuals to switch instead of putting it out to the whole team. if no one responds, an admin (who is most likely in the server) will resolve the problem.
ayo
ps. i really like that pic!! ITS SO HILARIOUS!!
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Re:Stacking on server....
« Reply #28 on: May 15, 2003, 03:28:36 PM »
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hey guys just remember ayo might not always be ayo so watch out!!!
i would play on my own name but i dont play enough to make one so when i do play its usually under his!!!
so if you see some kid that is say 15-8 its real ayo
and if you see someone 15-2 its dev
mujhhahahha
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Re:Stacking on server....
« Reply #29 on: May 15, 2003, 04:11:37 PM »
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devs confused, he means the kid that goes 5-6 is dev and the one that goes 33-2 is jim. he forgets b/c he has a bad memory and he is envious of me and stalks me...honestly
but in reality, its actually 15-5 dev, 15-5 jim so you'll never be able to tell who is playing. EVER!! mUHHAHHHAHA....unless you ask.
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« Reply #30 on: May 16, 2003, 01:08:22 AM »
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CMON DUDES, i was joking, look at the emoticon , my gawd!
stop taking every word i say like i'm serious about it
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Re:Stacking on server....
« Reply #31 on: May 16, 2003, 01:43:22 AM »
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| So how is this remedied? I guess a policy needs to be made, and it needs to be put forth as a policy, and every admin must know of it. Otherwise you got members of the admin team stating its ok to stack as long as you stack the harder team.... |
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ayo said what I was going to say: we've never had this much of a problem with it in our three year history till you brought it up.
What a waste of database space this thread is becoming. Find something better to argue about people! This topic is done! 
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