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Policy needed for stacking....
« on: July 20, 2003, 02:19:36 PM »
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I see three different versions of what is allowed.
I see that its said that stacking is ok until someone asks to even teams (which almost never is honored).
I see that YOU SHOULD NEVER STACK, IF CERTAIN ADMINS CATCH YOU YOU WILL BE KICKED.
And I see (our policy) if teams are stacked, STACK EM UP IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION.
Honestly, PTB fixes this STACKING problem. Seriously owners, listen to this plea, CONSIDER PUTTING PTB BACK ON THE SERVER! If you cant figure out how to config it to be fair, ASK! You have many vet admins out here who have coded plugins for AM, as well as the PTB plugin itself. It may look confusing but if you read the docs, and do some testing, you will find you can find settings that are FAIR to everyone.
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Re:Policy needed for stacking....
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2003, 05:10:45 PM »
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We have used PTB before. Its good, but it has its problems. As for the configs. I know them. Right now, its more of a thing we would rather not use, but would if it gets bad enough. Discussion among a few key admins would have to take place before this is installed.
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Re:Policy needed for stacking....
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2003, 05:22:43 PM »
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The stacking problem that I see most of the time comes when two "higer skilled" people are on the same team. Then they can mow the other team down like grass. As long as the skilled people offset each other then things go fine.
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Re:Policy needed for stacking....
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2003, 11:07:41 AM »
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Two cases off the top of my head....
Me and SupaFly last night on Iceworld...we both had over 100 kills, but ct only had top of 50 or 60....neither of us could switch to balance cause it was 9v9 (teams had the same numba of players).
Me and Nittany on prodigy, were dominating on our team of n00blets (t), started to balance at the end though, more skilled people joined and went ct.
BTW, can we get some kinda anti camper plugin? It is very frustrating when your t and you got a guy who is camping spawn on a bomb map.
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Re:Policy needed for stacking....
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2003, 11:08:25 AM »
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Camper plugins are lame. I've personaly tested 5 options ranging from AM Plugins and CM Add-ons. Each and everyone of them gets false hits when you have a legit camper (someone camping the bombsite/hosties/whatever). Maybe something new has come out but I've never seen a "good" anti-camper plugin.
PTB does rock when configured correctly; but its deadly annoying. I think the best point made was on the old Forums and I can't quote the source because I dont remember but it followed a fairly straight forward concept. There are occasions where teams loose simply because the players can't, won't or don't play together. Why should a winning team be split up to help a team that doesn't even try to help itself?
Meh.. I'm a huge fan of PTB but I totaly acknolwedge its short comings; its annoying to be getting into your groove with your buds; fraggin away and having fun just to be swaped over to the other side.
Software balancing has always been an option; but realisticaly why can't players just stop stat whoring and balance the game accordingly?
Sorta an add to this post tho. One plugin that does work well that CSR may want to add on would be an AFK kicker. It will free up slots when the serber is packed but I think more importantly; when no admins are on; it will get rid of those players who annoy everyone by being afk for an entire map 
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Re:Policy needed for stacking....
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2003, 09:07:37 PM »
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yes and clans should not stack teams on a pub server cough*Wumpa especialy when it ends up 8 on 5 c'mon you guys are better than that use some common sence
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Re:Policy needed for stacking....
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2003, 07:34:44 AM »
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No one complains as long as whatever team we're on is losing horribly, but when the game gets close, heaven forbid, suddenly it's not fair. I don't understand what difference it makes as long as skill wise the teams are even and last night, with the exception of a couple maps where we were getting hosed, the teams were pretty even. Someone please explain this to me???? 
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Re:Policy needed for stacking....
« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2003, 10:12:07 AM »
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There is no argument to be made about Wumpa (specifically) stacking teams. "Team stacking" is when one team or the other gets loaded with all the best players currently in the server. The result is team scores that look like 23-CT to 1-T. It has nothing to do with what clan you're in or what your in-game name happens to be.
Not at all surprisingly, the Wumpas prefer to play together on the same team, which I'm sure is a very common thing for clans in general to prefer. More importantly though, we prefer to have a good time, and to make sure everybody else is having a good time too, which means we're usually the first to switch teams if it would help.
We lost more maps than we won last night, regardless of what team we were all on. What I can't understand is why you feel like picking on us, HH. I don't see the motivation. You're part of a clan, aren't you? Do you not enjoy your clanmates' company enough to want to play on the same team as them? Do you not want any clan to enjoy themselves by playing together as a team? Even when it's as a losing team? Or do you just not like Wumpas? 
Anyway, I joined the (losing) CTs on assault last night when it was extremely obvious the teams weren't at all even. Us CTs had a heck of a time rushing the Ts like mad fools. We lost--extensively--but it was the most fun I've ever had on assault, and switching to the losing team made that map more fun that it could have ever been for me as a T.
I'd also like to say GGz to nittany for being an incredibly good sport and helping to try to even the teams on practically every map we played last night.
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Re:Policy needed for stacking....
« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2003, 11:23:48 AM »
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I'd have to say there were alot of times last night when people were saying the teams were stacked when they weren't. Assault aside from that; that was kind of sad. The wumpas didn't seem to be stacking to me. They were all on the ct side on assualt losing horribly. Then the rest of the maps stayed pretty even and they weren't all of the same team for the other maps I think.
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Re:Policy needed for stacking....
« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2003, 11:30:43 AM »
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Wumpa is one of the few clans that don't annoy me when they stack, simply because well, except for Raven (and Ryo on his good days) they aren't THAT good. If you 1 v 1 the average WUMPA versus any other clannie (except TWB), the WUMPA would get their ass kicked.
The thing that makes WUMPA good is an amazingly selfless teamwork. The other night we were playing nuke, it was me Porter, Wannabe and two other people. We were totally outclassed by the other team...one of the guys on the other team had gone like 30-6 on the previous map. But we stuck together, maneuvered, didn't sit around, and played smart.
If csh had the same teamwork as WUMPA, there would be no point to playing CS anymore.
As is, we've all been playing together for nearly three years...it's about time we started playing like this was a team/objective based game instead of going for kills. I've half a mind to take a trip to Illy just so I could become a WUMPA (and also to break all of Porter's MAC paraphenelia).
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Re:Policy needed for stacking....
« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2003, 12:12:05 PM »
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| . If you 1 v 1 the average WUMPA versus any other clannie (except TWB), the WUMPA would get their ass kicked. |
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Re:Policy needed for stacking....
« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2003, 12:20:51 PM »
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"If csh had the same teamwork as WUMPA, there would be no point to playing CS anymore."
LOL csh didn't use teamwork in public servers silly :-p
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Re:Policy needed for stacking....
« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2003, 12:46:35 PM »
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Something that may help against staking is getting rid of those bloody stats and rank crap. Seems to me that when the teams are at their most stacked, it is when those that care only about their stats are on and are therefore unwilling to switch teams because then they may be exposed as the crappy players they are (i.e. hiding/camping behind your whole team to let them do all the work then pick off the enemy who only has 25 hp left) but for maps like ICE World and Scoutz n Knives, its hard to avoid stacking as its a frag fest without real objectives so is really disorganized. Plus they tend to Favour either one team or another. (IE. if you look at it closely, Scoutz n Knives favours the CTs slightly though not by much but if you have quality players ct, its all they need)
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Re:Policy needed for stacking....
« Reply #13 on: July 23, 2003, 01:59:24 PM »
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I would be all for removing the StatsMe scoreboards. I like the damage displays, but we already have two stats packages, and the in-game one seems to be the main cause of the... "whoring". 
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Re:Policy needed for stacking....
« Reply #14 on: July 23, 2003, 02:17:52 PM »
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yep... funny enough nittany and i were accused of stat whoring today... Theres another good reason to drop statsme, it can be used as a reason for an argument
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Re:Policy needed for stacking....
« Reply #15 on: July 23, 2003, 04:42:50 PM »
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ya ptb was good, but it switches people like every round, if it did it like every 5 rounds that would be nice, but ct then t then ct for a few then t. it's not very fun being juggled like a bowling pin, oh ya, then it started slaying people to switch them to a different team
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Re:Policy needed for stacking....
« Reply #16 on: July 23, 2003, 05:18:25 PM »
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porter it was the 3rd round of 8 on 5 on vertigo and the only reason it was like that was beacuse all the wumpas joined ct with no regard to what the teams were. thats my beef i really dont have anything against the wumpas, i just have seen a couple o things done by admin wumpas that i feel were wrong and am frustrated that it seems the admins are protecting fellow admins. thats why i posted about this in the forums and not going trough channels..
the admins need to comunicate to us with what is happeneing about our complaints .
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Re:Policy needed for stacking....
« Reply #17 on: July 23, 2003, 06:07:11 PM »
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the only time i got annoyed was at the beginning of the map, when they would all stack one team..making it uneven like HH said.
lose the first round, you are screwed for the next couple till you can buy a gun
this happened a couple more times too..but after the opposing team finally recovered..the stacking no longer became an issue.
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Re:Policy needed for stacking....
« Reply #18 on: July 23, 2003, 08:42:08 PM »
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Wannabe was right-- you guys only complain about it when we win. Nobody was screaming "wumpas stack" when we were getting our asses kicked on assault or dust2 or even vertigo.
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« Reply #19 on: July 23, 2003, 08:45:38 PM »
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of course no one complains when you lose... the whole problem with stacking is that the one team with more/skilled players has an advantage over the other team, if your losing... your team doesn't have an advantage over the other team...
I thought this was understood?
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Re:Policy needed for stacking....
« Reply #20 on: July 23, 2003, 08:46:12 PM »
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Ribs has got the jist of the whole WUMPA clan. We work as a team, which is what CS is. There would be no point in having two teams T's and CT's if you were meant to go solo. Anyway, we try to be as fair as possible and do often switch teams if necessary.
Either way I play to have fun, most certainly not for stats. I suck and I know that, but I still enjoy playing and I'm proud to be part of any team who does the same.
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Re:Policy needed for stacking....
« Reply #21 on: July 23, 2003, 09:53:16 PM »
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If csh had the same teamwork as WUMPA, there would be no point to playing CS anymore.
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Yeah, i'm going to have to second kaoz's statement and let it be known we didn't run strats in public servers. As for our teamwork it was pretty good becasue we'd all play at Azus's house a lot on lan.
I'll talk and stuff in the server over mic sometimes. Only if it is a friend irl usually. When i'm playing especially on lan with others i'm pretty estatic. I just don't say much because I just do my own assesments. Like they bought 4th round and lost I can rush them hard with flashes cause they will have no money for guns and armor. Something like that. Or guys the have been covering short A hard so if we send most through b tunnels and i'll go with someone else to short A and flash and nade they will be confused and i'll tell you when to break b. But I don't because well its a pub and people can do whatever they want. I'm not striving to be pub-i yet.
Back to the topic. I'm sure the situation the HH explained is true and valid, but then i'm sure the wumpas didn't mean to do anything or piss anyone off by it. I think the stats should be removed. It is kinda like socialism and we all know socialism is a much better system.
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« Reply #22 on: July 23, 2003, 11:03:39 PM »
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one other thing ribs, i understood your point, i just felt the need to defend my clan :-p
EDIT: csh is also a poor example, because like wumpa, we're all RL friends, and thats where u get the teamwork
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« Reply #23 on: July 23, 2003, 11:08:48 PM »
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You left us for immaturity and a losing record. 
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« Reply #24 on: July 23, 2003, 11:15:44 PM »
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what i left you guys for at first was not what i ended up with, when i quit LFS, it had 1 member left from the roster i joined, not counting the manager who was never there, I was definitely happy with the move for the first month heh
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Re:Policy needed for stacking....
« Reply #25 on: July 24, 2003, 04:50:31 PM »
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okay, so they get stomped on for three rounds, without anyone saying a peep, the map changes (and maybe they just like that map), they kick people rear-ends, and everyone complains. I'm not so sure I even consider that stacking...it could just be luck of the draw. It could just be that the rest of the people online disliked that map. It could just be dumb-luck since it was the 4th map, probability of them winning one map is in their favor. Personally, I see alot of finger pointing when it comes to the issue of stacking teams. And I've YET to be on the server, ask for people to switch teams, and them not do it. Most specifically, I find it hard to believe that the Wumpas aren't holding true to their integrity on this issue.
That being said, I also wouldn't treat them any differently than anyone else when it comes to this issue. Admins can force switch people, and I've done it a few times recently to people as necessary.
In all though, not that many Wumpas are on all at one time as is, not to mention their personality is usually pretty nonchalant and tranquil about their playing style. My wager is that this situation is somewhat blown out of proportion, but I'll keep it in mind.
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Re:Policy needed for stacking....
« Reply #26 on: July 24, 2003, 05:41:11 PM »
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no i dont think so how about when they stacked then started loosign so they decided to restart the map now that is blatent BS. if you want to be on the same team so bad stick with it dont abuse admin powers beacuse your loosing
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Re:Policy needed for stacking....
« Reply #27 on: July 24, 2003, 05:46:16 PM »
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When exactly did we change the map because we were losing? We got hosed last night and played through the entire map. I'm not sure which situation you're talking about, but if that was the case I wasn't aware of it. I'm not an admin, so I know it was not my doing. I think if you have a problem with admin use, you need to direct it at the admins that were on and not the WUMPA clan.
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Re:Policy needed for stacking....
« Reply #28 on: July 24, 2003, 06:32:18 PM »
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Ummm most of us know who the admins are and HH is no exception. I'm sure he knows the wumpas that are admins... if you didn't know that you have csr admins in your clan.
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Re:Policy needed for stacking....
« Reply #29 on: July 24, 2003, 07:36:51 PM »
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I'm sure he knows the wumpas that are admins... if you didn't know that you have csr admins in your clan.
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Re:Policy needed for stacking....
« Reply #30 on: July 25, 2003, 07:37:43 AM »
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| no i dont think so how about when they stacked then started loosign so they decided to restart the map now that is blatent BS. if you want to be on the same team so bad stick with it dont abuse admin powers beacuse your loosing |
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As I have already explained to Ribs, it was NOT a Wumpa that reset the map on dust2. Even I don't agree with that use of admin power. On top of that, the admin that performed the restart didn't check with any of the other in-games admins (myself included) before performing the switch.
I suggest that unless you can prove it wasn't another in-game admin or an admin using rcon, you refrain from accusing any individual person from abusing admin privileges.
I also suggest you not use the term "they" to imply that everyone in my clan is an admin (all of whom were innocent, by the way) when not everyone in my clan is in fact an admin.
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Ummm most of us know who the admins are and HH is no exception. I'm sure he knows the wumpas that are admins... if you didn't know that you have csr admins in your clan.
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I can't believe you didn't understand what Wannabe was saying! Of course she knows there are Wumpas who have admin privs on CSR!
Look, Wannabe was essentially saying that if you have a problem with the Wumpas, that's fine: complain to the Wumpas, not the CSR admins. But if you have a problem with something a certain CSR admin did regardless of what tag they wear in-game: complain about the CSR admin(s) and not the ENTIRE CLAN of just one of the admins!
"Wumpa Porter abused his admin privs" is totally different than "the Wumpas abused their admin privs." HH: You have no right attacking the rest of my (or anybody else's) clan because of any beef you may have with me (or anyone else) as an admin specifically. 
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Re:Policy needed for stacking....
« Reply #31 on: July 25, 2003, 08:41:59 AM »
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We wouldnt have this conversation if people would use commun sence.. If the score is 10-1 dont wait till people complain make a switch. Yesterday in dust2 score was 14-1 nobody was doing anything. And when you ask to even up the teamz people tell you to stop complaining. Maybe if we couldnt choose the team when we join..just an idea
Something must be done.. so plz admin stop talking about it and make the move. All this BS for the stats!
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Re:Policy needed for stacking....
« Reply #32 on: July 25, 2003, 10:22:10 AM »
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no supafly, no one told you to stop complaining til vertigo, when the teams were fine and you were still complaining about them and other things... On dust2, We were trying to get some peeeps to switch, no one would, so eventually nittany and I did.
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« Reply #33 on: July 25, 2003, 10:25:38 AM »
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Smokey also eventually switched on dust2. GGz to all of you for recognizing the need and taking the initiative to even the teams on your own! 
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« Reply #34 on: July 25, 2003, 10:48:43 AM »
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I just wish it wasn't always the same people switching... but I'll deal :-p
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<after some thought on the topic> LOL! I just realized something: imagine if switching respective sides were this easy in real life! Honestly, wouldn't it be hilarious if a Terrorist threw down his AK, slipped on a Counter-Terrorist uniform and started blowing away the guys that he went to Harvard with?  Or the vice versa? Have a Counter-Terrorist mutter something about how he's under-paid and slip on a ski mask?
Sorry, I know this is a serious discussion here but I htink a little humor (or attempt thereof) would diffuse the situation a bit.
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Re:Policy needed for stacking....
« Reply #36 on: July 25, 2003, 10:55:20 AM »
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consider me diffused!
and a forum whore! :-p
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« Reply #37 on: July 25, 2003, 11:17:06 AM »
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consider me diffused!
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hahaha. Your just posting koaz to get ur forum stats up....geez ur such a forum whore....and a forum HAXOR!! You have 120 posts yesturday and now u have way over 200....someone is using HAX!!! haha
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Re:Policy needed for stacking....
« Reply #38 on: July 25, 2003, 12:02:06 PM »
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no supafly, no one told you to stop complaining til vertigo, when the teams were fine and you were still complaining about them and other things... On dust2, We were trying to get some peeeps to switch, no one would, so eventually nittany and I did.
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If you call having you, Nittany , all the H guys in the same team fine.. well I guess the were fine! lol
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Re:Policy needed for stacking....
« Reply #39 on: July 25, 2003, 12:09:28 PM »
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you know, all those DDC guys were doing really well, you were doing decently and others were too
AND you were CT's!!!! that map is almost as ct sided as aztec! and if i remember, you guys were winning
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Re:Policy needed for stacking....
« Reply #40 on: July 25, 2003, 01:07:15 PM »
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Re:Policy needed for stacking....
« Reply #41 on: July 25, 2003, 06:32:20 PM »
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Interesting reading since my post (did I post here?)...
Ok well its like this. Admin powers and the abuse of them (yes it was abuse if an admin switched map without asking the other admins what they thought of it). There is an EASY solution to this, although I can hear lesser admins screaming now...just use admin_highlander so only top admin can do anything when on server. In addition, have a set of POLICIES that all admins are to look at, and keep checkin from time to time for updates to it (included in this policy list would be like no awp, no switching maps without other admins knowledge/approval?, and whatever other policies csr has).
Far as admin abuse? Well, the map was switched, was the admin in game? And if so was he on the winning team? Prolly not. Wanna know why he changed it? Cause you wouldnt unstack is my bet. He got frustrated and changed it. Oh well....
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Re:Policy needed for stacking....
« Reply #42 on: July 27, 2003, 03:51:17 PM »
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I liked that about PTB or whatever it was....people got pissy about it but it stopped people from stacking.
And as for a policy? WHY THE HELL NEED A POILICY? DON'T STACK, hows that for your policy?
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« Reply #43 on: July 27, 2003, 04:13:34 PM »
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I didnt like that feature of PTB. I remember a couple of times it would be like 7 on 4 or 7 on 5 and i would try to join the team with the 4 or 5 and it wouldnt let me join and immediately puts me on the team with 7. then people yellin at me and stuff...thats not fun....especially b/c i wanted to go to the other team.
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« Reply #44 on: August 11, 2003, 10:21:13 PM »
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I am not sure how to handle this problem either but if your team goes 10-0 then you should consider switching. I don't know why this doesn't go thru people's heads. If you are a average or lower-level player on the losing side, then offer to switch with a stronger one on the other. Mention the person by name. That really helps.
The better player should jump at the chance to help the lesser team out. I am one of the first to switch teams if I see they are stacked or its pointed out to me. I wish others would do the same. Its becoming hard to have fun here when you are either: just mowing over the enemy or getting stomped into the ground with no hope in sight.
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« Reply #45 on: August 12, 2003, 12:06:43 PM »
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Something you need to consider Hand and Im sure its been mentioned 2000+ times...
To many people are stats whores... whats the deal with every round "/rank". Does it really matter that much you cant go a single round without checking? These are as Ive mentioned thousands of times the people who sit behind their team letting the others do all the real work.
So when they are on the winning team changing teams is unthinkable because then their true lack of skill comes through for everyone to see.
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Re:Policy needed for stacking....
« Reply #46 on: August 12, 2003, 03:05:33 PM »
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Lmao....
Just lmao.
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« Reply #48 on: August 12, 2003, 11:24:06 PM »
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That's what I meant in my post up here ^...
...but I was too lazy to find urls. I don't think he's a stat whore though, I think he was just curious why he wasn't showing up. It still made me laugh when he wrote about others bieng stat whores though, .
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« Reply #49 on: August 13, 2003, 12:30:49 PM »
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I'm gonna have to agree with Shaggy on this. There are alot of stat whores on the server. I'm to the point where I log in and if I see the teams horribly out classed I won't even bother joining. Not because I care about stats (cause I don't) but because I'd rather not spend 20 minutes on a map having no fun because no one will switch sides.
Most people that frequent the forums will switch sides but thats not meaning everyone will. Sometimes you ask the whole round to even up the teams and it never happens and theres absolutly nothing you can do about it because unless your admin you can't fix it.
I saw it yesterday and check my logs if you want you'll see me asking people to even up the teams for 2 rounds (all that I could bare cause I am sick). Have screenshots also. Certain individuals are worse then others. If you watch they won't pick a team until they figure out which one has the better players then they will join it even if it makes the numbers uneven.
Personally I'd like to see some kinda software put in to even up the teams.
Anyways I'm tired and sick so can't post any futher.
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« Reply #50 on: September 02, 2003, 11:35:11 AM »
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SHUT UP ABOUT STAT WHORES, i am so sick of hearing that yes i and others like having good stats, but i don't join a team caus i am like nice all teh good players are ct, so i will go ct, i either join the team with less players, or the team with the lowest score
kaoz said something like this once, "i fell bad for anyone who bases their self worth on their stats"
i don't think people really care about stats that much,
which reminds me, i haven't checked mine in a while
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« Reply #51 on: September 02, 2003, 10:42:09 PM »
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The stacking is really starting to bug me. CSR has always been a place where everyone was out to have a good time. Lately though, I'm frustrated with the stacking atomosphere, it is fast becoming just like any other server out there. Where only half the people are having a good time. The half with all the good players.
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Re:Policy needed for stacking....
« Reply #52 on: September 03, 2003, 02:11:15 AM »
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I've noticed this too, but to head off the inevitable: I refuse to accept PTB as any kind of acceptable solution. I would have faith in our admin team, but I don't see them on much, and even when I do they are more focused on playing than the jobs they were given admin access for. I am of course not blaming every single one of them because I know there are some that still work tirelessly at their jobs. Others have been nonexistent or even negligent lately though. I would very much like to see our admins take a more active role in making sure everybody is enjoying themselves. I think this would help a lot. So would a moderate dose of admin_t and admin_ct!
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Re:Policy needed for stacking....
« Reply #53 on: September 06, 2003, 09:04:12 AM »
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just bring ptb back if people dont want to switch on thier own switch them then if the complain about that then i feel it is time to end csr.
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« Reply #54 on: September 06, 2003, 01:36:10 PM »
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maybe some new admins are needed. not replacements but additions
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Re:Policy needed for stacking....
« Reply #55 on: September 06, 2003, 02:44:22 PM »
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thatys a good point too it seems there are alot of times when no admins can be found
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« Reply #56 on: September 06, 2003, 06:11:41 PM »
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I am mostly always on... and when I am on Grail is usually doing stuff on the other computer... if we need anything I'd just get him to come in or he just watch my screen to see if anything is fishy periodically.
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« Reply #57 on: September 06, 2003, 06:27:28 PM »
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i just learned last night you two were twins.
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« Reply #58 on: September 06, 2003, 06:48:58 PM »
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LOL, I'm the oldest... it doesn't show does it... shh... keep on the down low  lol hehe
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